Time to force Amazon to include "made in" in their product filter

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bugenhagen, Dec 28, 2020.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Seeing Zhang Zhan jailed for four years, the lady "citizen journalist" who reported on the conditions in Wuhan being worse than the official line.. Reminds me again as I need to order stuff on Amazon, I cannot easily withdraw my money as a sign of displeasure.

    I think an executive order is needed to force Bezos to include this so customers can make a choice on where their money goes. This is a fundamental feature of our capitalist system which has been intentionally under minded by Amazon.

    "A Chinese citizen journalist who covered Wuhan's coronavirus outbreak has been jailed for four years.

    Zhang Zhan was found guilty of "picking quarrels and provoking trouble", a frequent charge against activists.

    The 37-year-old former lawyer was detained in May, and has been on hunger strike for several months. Her lawyers say she is in poor health.

    Ms Zhang is one of several citizen journalists who have run into trouble for reporting on Wuhan.

    There is no free media in China and authorities are known to clamp down on activists or whistleblowers seen as undermining the government's response to the outbreak.

    Ren Quanniu, one of Zhang Zhan's lawyers, expressed serious concern for her physical and mental wellbeing, saying she was very weak and on hunger strike. Mr Ren said his client "looked devastated" when her sentence was announced and her mother sobbed loudly.

    'Rebellious soul'

    In a video interview with an independent filmmaker before her arrest, Ms Zhang said she decided to travel to Wuhan in February after reading an online post by a resident about life in the city during the outbreak.

    Once there, she began documenting what she saw on the streets and hospitals in livestreams and essays, despite threats by authorities, and her reports were widely shared on social media.

    The rights group Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders said her reports also covered the detention of other independent journalists and the harassment of families of victims who were seeking accountability.

    "Maybe I have a rebellious soul... I'm just documenting the truth. Why can't I show the truth?" she said in a clip of the interview obtained by the BBC.

    "I won't stop what I'm doing because this country can't go backwards."

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    Video captionFrom fear to freedom: China's painful year fighting Covid-19
    Ms Zhang went missing on 14 May according to the CHRD. One day later, it was revealed she had been detained by police in Shanghai, more than 400 miles (640km) away.

    She was formally charged in early November. The indictment sheet alleges she sent "false information through text, video and other media through [platforms like] WeChat, Twitter and YouTube".

    She is also accused of accepting interviews with foreign media outlets and "maliciously spreading" information about the virus in Wuhan. A sentence of four to five years was recommended.

    'Alarming sentence'
    In protest against her arrest, Ms Zhang has gone on a hunger strike and is said to be in very poor health.

    Zhang Keke, who is also a lawyer for Ms Zhang, said in a statement that when he visited her in early December she had told him she was being force-fed via a feeding tube. He also said she was suffering from headaches, dizziness and stomach pain.

    "Restrained 24 hours a day, she needs assistance going to the bathroom, and she tosses and turns in her sleep," the lawyer said. "She feels psychologically exhausted, like every day is a torment."

    The lawyer had applied for a postponement of the trial given the state of Ms Zhang's health.

    Ms Zhang had previously been detained in 2019 for voicing support for activists in Hong Kong.

    Leo Lan, a research and advocacy consultant at the CHRD, said Ms Zhang's latest sentencing was "alarming".

    "[Her] sentence is so heavy. The Chinese government is very determined to silence her and intimidate other citizens who tried to expose what happened in Wuhan," he told the BBC.

    "I'm concerned about the fate of other detained citizens who also reported news about the pandemic."

    Several other citizen journalists who reported from Wuhan - Li Zehua, Chen Qiushi and Fang Bin - went missing earlier this year.

    Li eventually resurfaced, saying he was forcibly quarantined, while Chen is reported to be staying with family but under government supervision. The whereabouts of Fang Bin are still unknown.

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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I can get behind this. Sometimes I want a cheap throw away product, sometimes I want a quality product. People should be allowed to boycott regimes in principle, be it China or Israel (looking at you Texas).

    The GOP will of course block any such provision.
     
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  3. notagain

    notagain

    Boycott China....close the ports. China is enhancing their soldiers(human mutant experiment) and harvesting organs. America is going full retard, oligarchy.
     
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  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Well not quite though their super soldier project is an indication they are on the offensive if its real. I could use some of that for house painting today.

    I am pro globalisation in large part, I believe it has brought peace to the world. But there is the but, as with domestic services where I choose to use this or that service, its well nigh impossible for me to vote with my wallet on small products.

    Living in a developing country I would like to support domestic makers but this does not mean I won't buy Chinese made products. I would however pay more for a product made in other nations to spread the manufacturing skills. This was well highlighted at the beginning of the pandemic with medical equipment and supplies.

    I know this confuses the left and right at the same time. China is now in a position where they can attack and must be forgiven, relations normalised once they have what they want. Just do it and fuck them, they need us is a very compelling argument any military can make. It is what the USA has done for decades. They are now a dictatorship it seems under Xi and his personal interests may not be characteristic of China's five years ago.

    But beyond that, voting with your money is a part of our system and we should have the choice.

    Today in ordering a set of books by a Chinese author (on Amazon) "The three body problem" as part of my studies to understand Chinese thinking. Its science fiction of course as I can more easily equate cultural thinking via this.

    That all said, I want to make a choice online. Irregardless of whether it is abused by some.
     
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    If they were really enhancing their soldiers...they would be wise to use the blood of their Chinese BodyBuilders....



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  6. VEGASDESERT

    VEGASDESERT

    I know someone who sells on amazon, the tag dangling from the product that sates the company name says made in USA.

    His product is made in China. I suppose the tag is made in the USA, lol.

    Deceptive? yeah
     
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Perhaps it's a small head but my eye says he is not quite 6'2", maybe he was using Arnie or Stallone's tape measure.
     
  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I bought something on Amazon that stated made in Canada although I don't have an issue with products from China....

    After it arrived, the label stated "made in China".

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  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Yes, that happens, sometimes for legit reasons due to distributed manufacturing.

    A friend is a journalist and I and other friends tried to buy various things nationally or from Europe etc. for her article. I spent a fair amount of time digging into script search customisation of Amazon and could not find any country of origin field which indicates to me they don't record it intentionally. It may be my kung-fu was off that day and its there but I don't believe so.
     
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Don't you think it is possible that the entity that made the listing LIED IN THEIR LISTING?

    Geez, man! Don't click e-mails from unknown contacts! I weep for the future.

     
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