Tim Walz faces 'stolen valor' accusations from former unit commander amid VP campaign

Discussion in 'Politics' started by FortuneTeller, Aug 12, 2024.

  1. This fake disgusts me to no end.

    Tim Walz faces 'stolen valor' accusations from former unit commander amid VP campaign (msn.com)


    Tim Walz, the vice-presidential hopeful, has been slated by the battalion commander of his old unit over "stolen valor" claims. Kamala Harris' running mate had to withdraw boasts of having "carried" weapons of war during his Army National Guard service spanning 24 years and has coped with accusations of being a "coward" from soldiers' kin.

    Tampon Tim is nothing but a damn coward.
     
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So John Kolb, a GOP advocate, who had NOTHING to do with Tim Walz's unit before Walz retired is spewing bullshiat.

    How typical of the Republican party to attack the record of someone who served in the military with integrity and honor for 24 years. Maybe Trump can tell us about his military record... as his cronies including Vance attack a long-serving veteran.

    I take it that Trump and the Republicans have no reasonable vision for the country they want to talk about --- so all we hear out of their mouths is grievances and attacks. It's SAD.

    "Keep choking that stolen valor chicken weirdos".
     
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's get the statement from the Minnesota National Guard.

    The Minnesota National Guard says it was improbable for Governor Tim Walz to have known about his unit's impending mobilization orders shortly after his retirement

    Minnesota National Guard officials weigh in on Walz service
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...fficials-weigh-in-on-walz-service/ar-AA1oGkHQ

    It’s unlikely that Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic nominee to the vice presidency, knew that his unit would receive mobilization orders not long after he retired in 2005, sources with the Minnesota National Guard told the Boston Herald.

    Since the announcement he would join Vice President Kamala Harris atop the party ticket, Walz has come under sustained fire over his decision to retire following 24 years of service in various Guard units while his battalion was allegedly under orders to deploy or set to soon receive orders, and over his use of the Command Sergeant Major rank in campaign messaging.

    However, according to information shared by multiple official sources within the MNG, Walz earned that rank and would need either the gift of prophecy or a time machine to use the deployment as an excuse to leave the service, as his May 2005 retirement date came months before the 1-125th Battalion of the 1st Brigade Combat Team learned they would mobilize and most of a year before the unit was actually deployed to Iraq for what would become a historically long, 22-month tour.

    According to Lt. Col. Kristen Augé, the MNG’s State Public Affairs Officer, Walz “served from April 8, 1981, to May 16, 2005″ during which time he “held multiple positions within field artillery such as firing battery chief, operations sergeant, first sergeant, and culminated his career serving as the command sergeant major for the battalion.

    “Governor Walz served in the Minnesota National Guard’s 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery after transferring from the Nebraska National Guard in 1996. While serving in Minnesota, his military occupational specialties were 13B – a cannon crewmember who operates and maintains cannons and 13Z – field artillery senior sergeant. In Nebraska, he served as a 11Z – infantry senior sergeant, and a 71L – administrative specialist,” Augé said.

    Walz’s official May retirement date came almost two full months before the 1-125 Field Artillery found out they would likely mobilize. An official order was not issued until a month after that, about 90 days after Walz left the service, according to information provided by Lt. Col. Ryan Rossman, the MNG’s Director of Operations.

    “Minnesota National Guard’s 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery received an alert order for mobilization to Iraq on July 14, 2005. The official Department of the Army mobilization order was received on August 14, 2005,” Rossman said.

    The unit mobilized on October 12 — nearly five months after Walz left the service — and deployed in late March of the 2006 after training in Camp Shelby, Mississippi, according to Rossman. That’s a full 10 months after Walz reentered civilian life.

    Any assertions that Walz’s unit was warned of a possible deployment ahead of the July 14 mobilization order is questionable, according to DoD officials, as they amount to little more than repeated and misplaced barracks rumors.

    First of all, almost every unit and member of the U.S. Military is subject to potential deployment at some point in the future and trains constantly toward that inevitability. Second, the U.S. Army’s current practice of officially notifying a unit ahead of an upcoming deployment via a “Notification of Sourcing” wasn’t implemented until 2009. Back in 2005, any unofficial hint a unit might mobilize that made its way out of the Department of the Army Headquarters would be considered unofficial and subject to change pending actual mobilization orders.

    Additionally, according to MNG Joint Chief of Staff Col. Scott Rohweder, in order for Walz to retire, he would have had to clear his plans through his unit commander. There is no indication Walz’s commanding officer acted to prevent or stall his request to retire.

    “We value all citizens who serve in our Armed Forces. Each service member’s service journey is unique, and when they decide to leave military service, it is a personal decision. Less than 1 percent of Americans serve in our nation’s military, and an even smaller percent reach retirement eligibility. We are grateful for citizens who commit to serving, whether on their initial contract or for 20 years. When a service member reaches 20 years of service, they can submit a request to retire even if there is time remaining on their enlisted contractual agreement. Their request is reviewed and must be approved by leadership,” Rohweder told the Herald.

    On top of this, Walz had apparently returned home from a mobilization and deployment — the full length of which occurred while he was entirely eligible to drop his retirement paperwork — that ended just over a year before he began the process of leaving the military.

    “Governor Tim Walz mobilized with the Minnesota National Guard’s 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery on Aug. 3, 2003, to support Operation Enduring Freedom. The battalion supported security missions at various locations in Europe and Turkey. Governor Walz was stationed at Vicenza, Italy, during his deployment. He returned to Minnesota in April, 2004,” Augé said.

    His retirement announcement also came after his years working with artillery had led to “bilateral hearing loss and tinnitus,” according to a medical retention board Walz was forced to stand before in 2002 over his injuries. Walz required ear surgery in 2005 for installation of prosthetic bones.

    Further allegations Walz is misrepresenting his rank are also unfounded, according to the MNG. Walz was indeed wearing a Command Sgt. Major’s stripes on the day he officially took off his uniform for the last time, but since he was unable to complete the 750 hours of coursework required to meet the conditions of Army Regulation 600-8-19 before he retired, he can’t be paid that rank’s retirement rate.

    “He retired as a master sergeant in 2005 for benefit purposes because he did not complete additional coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy,” Augé said.

    All of this is at odds with assertions to the contrary, like those made by Republican Vice Presidential candidate U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance, who served four years in the U.S. Marine Corps and claims that Walz is misrepresenting his military service.

    “Do not pretend to be something that you’re not,” Vance said last Wednesday. “I’d be ashamed if I was saying that I lied about my military service like you did.”
     
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

    Based on an interview of a MN National Guard veteran I read recently, the likelihood of deployment was a common topic of conversation for those in the unit before the order actually came down.
     
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You can either believe the statement from the Minnesota National Guard or you can believe the claim from a GOP party operative.
     
  7. The whole stolen Valor thing may cost team Kamala a few votes, but not enough to matter.
    Yes, it is common for the rumor mill to get going months before a unit deploys, and yes after watching some of the videos he was a bit open ended leaving people to easily draw a conclusion he saw some action, but also could be argued that conclusion is on them, not him. None of this shit will stick and it's just another day he's not having to explain some of the problems minnesota has experienced under his governorship. That's a win for Team Kamala.
     
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    The main issue is that the media is covering for Kammy and Timmy. They are radical socialists who wish to continue the destruction of the country.---And the media don't care.
     
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  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    There's nothing else to talk about. It's hard to beat this guy up.

    And given Kamala's age, its unlikely he will ever have to succeed her.

    Republican's should let this guy hurl his quips at Trump and Vance and focus their efforts on Kamala.

    Make him a non-entity. That's my armchair campaign strategy.

    Meanwhile democrats are attacking Vance's political positions (and his other positions :)) because there is a decent chance Trump won't make a full term.
     
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  10. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Can you couch a position?

    The eyes look familiar.

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    The man did 20 years for retirement plus he volunteered another 4. That's patriotic enough.

    Anybody military gets this.
     
    #10     Aug 13, 2024