Theta this, theta that

Discussion in 'Options' started by wburt1948, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. When looking at a potential trade, some spreads or ICs have either positive or negative theta. Do i understand it correctly that a negative theta would indicate that the option does not deteriorate over time or is time decay adverse?
    Thanks.
     
  2. If you sell an option it has positive theta, so you collect theta over the life of the option. If you buy an option, it has negative theta which works against you as your option is worth less as it decays.
     
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  3. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    No. You conflate option theta with time value. Speed versus speed*time=distance.

    Option theta is the rate at which an option loses market value due to the passage of time. Option theta, discounting time travel effects, is always a negative number.
    Option theta is not something that gets "collected" -- it is a rate-of-change.
    Time value may be usefully thought of as "collected", via the passage of time, through the application of theta.

    How option theta affects your position and/or your account is a different matter, and in simple trades is as your post suggests -- (net) long positions lose time value, (net) short positions gain time value.

    FWIW, option theta -- as a rate-of-change given a passage of time -- may be usefully summed over any number of positions and over any number of underlying contracts or any number of markets. (The basis is time!) Thus, summing the rates-of-change for an entire portfolio for a given day can be a *very* useful guidepost to portfolio construction or trade management requirements. In doing so, you have just calculated the net effect of the time value impact, for that day. Sweet, right?
     
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  4. destriero

    destriero

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  5. ffs1001

    ffs1001

    ^ Now that the village idiot, AKA donkey @desterio, has arrived, expect the thread to be rapidly poisoned with his bitterness, aggression, and childishness.
     
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  6. .sigma

    .sigma

    Options were meant to be sold ;)
     
  7. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Ha-hahhhhh -- that cracked me up. :D

    I would offer one point, though: desultorio still won't post under his own name. Gutless, that. An anonymous lack of respect for the entire forum. (But then, would YOU want to take credit for his posts? :confused::vomit::(:vomit::wtf::confused: Me neither.)
     
  8. I'm not looking to start a pissing contest. I came here to ask questions when I can't find a clear answer elsewhere.
     
  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    Unless you are Taleb, the black swan hunter.
     
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Relax, I usually learned something reading all those pissing contests.

    Why? Each one passionately tried to defend or to make their point.
     
    #10     Jul 14, 2020