The delta variant has a mutation that’s worrying experts: Here’s what we know so far

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Oct 21, 2021.

  1. ipatent

    ipatent

    The delta variant has a mutation that’s worrying experts: Here’s what we know so far

    LONDON — A newly-discovered mutation of the delta variant is being investigated in the U.K. amid worries that it could make the virus even more transmissible and undermine Covid-19 vaccines further.

    Still, there are many unknowns surrounding this descendent or subtype of the delta variant — formally known as AY.4.2 — which some are dubbing the new “delta plus” variant.

    The delta subtype is reported to be 10-15% more transmissible than the standard delta variant, but it is too early to say for certain whether it has been causing a spike in cases in the U.K.
     
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    If the Delta Variant has a mutation that qualifies as a Variant of Interest...the mutation will be given a new name different from Delta Variant.

    Just the same, if the Delta Variant has a mutation that qualifies as a Variant of Concern...the mutation will be given a new name different from Delta Variant.

    Also, mutations are very common...they occur almost every day but most never evolve into a Variant of Interest or Variant of Concern.

    The good thing as pointed out in your article, they'll be watching this mutation very closely to see if in fact it becomes more deadlier than its parent the Delta Variant.

    Unfortunately, the article doesn't disclose if the mutation was discovered / traced to a patient that's vaccinated (breakthrough infection), someone that had a prior Covid infection or to someone that's not vaccinated.

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  3. ipatent

    ipatent

    U.S. officials keep close watch on the ‘delta plus’ Covid mutation as it spreads in the U.K.

    • Formally known as AY.4.2, the “delta plus” subvariant includes two new mutations to the spike protein, A222V and Y145H, which allow the virus to enter the body.
    • The AY.4.2 subvariant has been detected in at least five cases in the U.S.: in Washington, D.C., California, North Carolina, Washington state and Massachusetts.
    • Francois Balloux, director of the Genetics Institute at University College London, said it could be 10%-15% more contagious than delta.
     
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  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Now that's very interesting considering the borders have been closed to Europe and from Europe for a while now. Simply, how did a mutation get from the U.K. into the United States with the border closed for several months now ???

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    Before you travel to the United States by air

    All air passengers coming to the United States, including U.S. citizens and fully vaccinated people, are required to have a negative COVID-19 test result no more than 3 days before travel or documentation of recovery from COVID-19 in the past 3 months before they board a flight to the United States.

    After Travel
    • You should get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel
    • Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
    • Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements.
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    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-united-kingdom

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  5. Wallet

    Wallet

    In all seriousness, you want to know how it would spread?

    Since those vaccinated can carry and spread (chances of asymptotic greater)they should test before leaving and also quarantine on return.

    Big statistical study out of Europe showing the percentage of vaccinated had no impact. Easy deduction, it’s spreading among the vaccinated greater than is being reported.
     
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And yet you fail to state the large majority of Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths are in the unvaccinated — as well as recent studies showing the vaccinated are less infectious than the unvaccinated. Somehow all of this has escaped your twisted narrative.
     
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  7. Wallet

    Wallet

    See the recent study.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

    Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States
     
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yet you supply no recent study… just a continually spewing of misinformation.

    Covid misinformation is killing tens of thousands of people across the globe. Have you no shame?
     
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So you updated your post and provided a study.

    Maybe you need to actually read the f@cking study which actually outlines the importance of vaccination while outlining the shortcomings of study itself. Do I need to start quoting text from the study so you understand.
     
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  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The issue is that the border has been closed...there's no travel involving Europe.

    Here's another hypothetical example, currently, land travel from Canada to the United State is not possible (its closed) until November 8th. If someone states that a Canadian had produced a mutated Covid virus and then drove into the U.S. and infected a few people...

    I will naturally ask how is that possible when land travel is not possible?

    OK...not a great example but my point.

    Possible Answer - Travel between the countries were not possible. It's possible that someone was exempt for travel between the countries regardless to their vaccination status along with possibly having a faked Covid negative test or not tested at all in those critical 3 days prior to travel.

    They then interacted among family and friends upon arrival...that's how the mutated virus travel from the U.K. to the United States. :D

    Note: You posted the study before in another thread and I responded to its summary. Please read my prior reply to the article of the study @ https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/latest-vaccine-news.343809/page-172#post-5476873

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