The Bid Ask spread of UVXY is much smaller than VIX future so day-trade UVXY instead of VIX future?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by GloriaBrown, Oct 3, 2017.

  1. I did some simple math:

    Market is opened now and the VIX future bid ask spread is 0.05 (please let me know if 0.05 is not a normal spread value)

    5 * $10 = $50 spread
    and the vix future is worth around 11.4 * 100 * $10 = $11400

    Current price of UVXY is $19.66, spread is $0.01
    $19.66*600=$11796
    $0.01*600=$6

    $50 vs $6

    Please let me know if there is anything wrong with my math or there is anything better than UVXY to day trade vix. Thank you.
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I did not look at your math, but the VX future is the underlying while the UVXY is a very poor replacement for it. Also, the VX future is $1000/point while the ETF is $100/point. If you have a futures account and are comfortable with the size of the VX, that us a better trading instrument, If your account is smaller, or you only trade equities, you are stuck with the ETFs.
     
  3. Well I am talking about day-trade so the buy-ask spread cost means a lot. Your explanation doesn't relate to buy-ask spread.
     
  4. Visaria

    Visaria

    imho, yes, better to trade the etf. if you want to short, go long svxy
     
  5. do you day trade svxy/vix etf?
     
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  6. IB spread on VX futures is .01. Get a better broker or pay the cost. A derivative of the derivative never beats trading the derivative outright.
     
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  7. comagnum

    comagnum

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  8. Right now the OCT VX futures have general b/a quote of 11.35/11.40 with a b/a size of 1,265 x 349 at 6:51PM EST.... not sure what weak liquidity you think there is in VX... Switches have a spread of .01 and decent size b/a at this time of night, imagine during trading hours.
     
  9. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    +VX is a 1256 contract and UVXY is not. Better tax treatment.
     
  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    OT..... Speaking of the VIX
    Dow up .37%.... VIX up .63% today.
    hmmmm
    Not supposed to work that way is it?
     
    #10     Oct 3, 2017