You can see why they buried this story. Even a Military-Enforced Quarantine Can’t Stop the Virus, Study Reveals Rhe New England Journal of Medicine has published a study that goes to the heart of the issue of lockdowns. The question has always been whether and to what extent a lockdown, however extreme, is capable of suppressing the virus. If so, you can make an argument that at least lockdowns, despite their astronomical social and economic costs, achieve something. If not, nations of the world have embarked on a catastrophic experiment that has destroyed billions of lives, and all expectation of human rights and liberties, with no payoff at all. What were the results? The virus still spread, though 90% of those who tested positive were without symptoms. Incredibly, 2% of the CHARM recruits still contracted the virus, even if all but one remained asymptomatic. “Our study showed that in a group of predominantly young male military recruits, approximately 2% became positive for SARS-CoV-2, as determined by qPCR assay, during a 2-week, strictly enforced quarantine.” And how does this compare to the control group that was not tested and not isolated in the case of a positive case? Have a look at this chart from the study: Which is to say that the nonparticipants actually contracted the virus at a slightly lower rate than those who were under an extreme regime. Conversely, extreme enforcement of NPIs plus more frequent testing and isolation was associated with a greater degree of infection. I’m grateful to Don Wolt for drawing my attention to this study, which, so far as I know, has received very little attention from any media source at all, despite having been published in the New England Journal of Medicine on November 11.
The study about Transmission among Marine Recruits during Quarantine does not show Quarantines/Lockdowns Don't Have an effect on Covid-19 spreading. You are totally misrepresenting the study and fabricating nonsense. We will allow reasonable people to go read the study and figure it out for themselves. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717
I will let rational people go read the study -- it does not claim at all quarantines and lockdown don't have an effect on COVID spreading. At usual, you are pushing nonsense.
When it comes to covid... you can never trust geBe-lying. He is so irrational about Covid he lies all the time. "CONCLUSIONS Among Marine Corps recruits, approximately 2% who had previously had negative results for SARS-CoV-2 at the beginning of supervised quarantine, and less than 2% of recruits with unknown previous status, tested positive by day 14. Most recruits who tested positive were asymptomatic, and no infections were detected through daily symptom monitoring. Transmission clusters occurred within platoons. (Funded by the Defense Health Agency and others.)"
Lets... review... 6000 person study...3000 wearing masks 3000 not... Both groups contracted Covid at same rate. Military recruits... one group in supervised quarantine one group not... the non isolated group contracted Covid at a lower rate. This is why the govt should not be allowed to enact any policies without data.
Once again this study has nothing to do with lockdowns and quarantines not working. This study is about transmission of COVID across a collocated isolated group of individuals once COVID is introduced into their population. Similar to COVID spreading on a cruise ship but in this case in a military base setting. Anyone claiming that this study proves that lockdowns and quarantines do not work is bonkers.
The only study / research that can prove the merits of a quarantines having the ability to reduce the spread of Covid-19 would involved a control group within a bubble versus another group outside the bubble that are then exposed to known or suspected positive Covid-19 individuals. These studies have absolutely nothing to do with "lockdowns". Something similar to the below... https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD013574.pub2/full Key results We included 51 studies. Thirty‐two studies focused on COVID‐19, 14 on SARS, three on SARS plus other viruses, and two on MERS. Most studies combined existing data from multiple sources and assumptions to create a model (a simulation) for predicting how events might occur over time, for people in different situations (called modelling studies). Four COVID‐19 studies observed the effects of quarantine (observational studies) on 6064 individuals in China, Greece and Singapore. Twenty‐eight COVID‐19 studies simulated outbreaks in Algeria, China, Canada, Italy, Kazakhstan, Nepal, UK, USA, Singapore, South Korea, on the cruise ship Diamond Princess, and in a general population. Four studies looked back on the effect of quarantine on 178,122 people involved in SARS and MERS outbreaks. The remaining 15 studies modelled SARS and MERS outbreaks. The modelling studies all found that simulated quarantine measures reduce the number of people with COVID‐19 and the number of deaths. With quarantine, estimates showed a minimum reduction in the number of people with COVID‐19 of 44%, and a maximum reduction of 96%. Similarly, with quarantine, estimates of the number of deaths showed a minimum reduction of 31%, and a maximum reduction of 76%. Combining quarantine with other measures, such as closing schools or physical distancing, may be more effective at reducing the spread of COVID‐19 than quarantine alone. The SARS and MERS studies agreed with the studies on COVID‐19. ---------- By the way, I have more studies that were done the most recent few months that verifies that quarantines are very effective in minimizing infections, hospitalizations and deaths. Lockdowns is a different story and requires different types of studies. Yet, we do have many sites that shows the effectiveness of lockdowns in many countries when they flatten the curve of infections, hospitalizations and deaths... Many charts posted here at Elitetrader.com but mostly ignored by the Covidiots. I myself must have posted +15 of such charts and more involving statistics including data involving one group of high risk...longterm care facilities. A chart I forgot to post awhile back involving New Zealand... On A Personal Note In 2016 when I was hospitalized / coma from a deadly airborne infection...three other patients died in the same ICU that I was in after they became infected too. I was then moved into a quarantine infectious disease wing of the hospital...nobody else was infected. The spread of the disease was stopped in its track and a month later I came out of the coma...surviving the ordeal. Scared because everybody around me were in what looked like astronaut space suits and they had on face masks under their breathing apparatus. I actually thought I was in a space lab...obviously still confused after waking up from an almost 2 month coma. wrbtrader