SPY

Discussion in 'Options' started by oldnemesis, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=SPY+Interactive#{"range":"2y","allowChartStacking":true}

    Brexit, interest rates and the Fed etc. etc. etc.

    The market has been knocking against 215 for 2 years... it doesn't want to go any higher.

    It's summer time. Time to pack it in until fall.

    Trade:
    with SPY at 206.52
    Sept 215/205 bear put spread at a net debit of $497

    Price................ Profit / Loss.......... ROI %
    150.00.................. 503.00............. 101.21%
    175.00.................. 503.00............. 101.21%
    200.00.................. 503.00............. 101.21%
    205.00.................. 503.00............. 101.21%
    210.03..................... 0.00................. 0.00%
    215.00................. (497.00)........... -100.00%
    225.00................. (497.00)........... -100.00%
    250.00................. (497.00)........... -100.00%
    275.00................. (497.00)........... -100.00%

    Prob = 47%
    Expectation = .47(503) - .3(497) -.23(500) = 236 - 149 - 115 = -28
     
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  2. Alternate trade:

    Sept 215/220 bear call spread for a net credit of 139

    Price............... Profit / Loss......... ROM %
    154.89................. 139.00............. 27.80%
    177.94................. 139.00............. 27.80%
    202.21................. 139.00............. 27.80%
    215.00................. 139.00............. 27.80%
    216.39..................... 0.00.............. 0.00%
    220.00................ (361.00)........... -72.20%
    226.47................ (361.00)........... -72.20%
    250.74................ (361.00)........... -72.20%
    275.00................ (361.00)........... -72.20%

    Prob = 70%
    Expectation = .7(139) - .22(361) - .08(181) = 97.3 - 79.4 - 14.5 = 3.4

    Thus it makes little difference if you choose a credit spread or a debit spread in terms of expectation. Between these two trades there is a slight 'edge' towards the credit spread.
     
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  3. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru

    • Together the trade would "almost" be a box - correct?
    • A box being similar put and call strikes.

    One thing I learned on ET that I would never have figure out on my own is that both sides of a box are identical even though one is ITM and the other OTM.

    PS ........ Selling SPY credit spreads gives me the willies.



    :)
     
  4. No:

    A box is a bullish spread and a bearish spread together. These trades are both bearish.

    http://www.theoptionsguide.com/box-spread.aspx