Shanghai metals fall on China growth worries; Nickel sinks

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by vanzandt, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    As goes copper...so do the world indices
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    METALS-Shanghai metals fall on China growth worries; Nickel sinks
    Reuters

    (Updates prices, adds analyst comment)

    TOKYO/BEIJING, Dec 26 (Reuters) - Shanghai metals fell across the board on Monday on concerns about demand growth in China as the government continues a crackdown on soaring house prices and pollution.

    The most-traded copper contract on the Shanghai Futures Exchange closed down 1.63 percent at 44,070 yuan ($6,341.74)a tonne at 0700 GMT, while other metals fell more.

    Shanghai zinc fell 6.38 percent at close and nickel lost seven percent while lead ended 4.97 percent lower.

    The London Metal Exchange (LME) is closed for holidays on Monday and Tuesday and will reopen on Wednesday, Dec. 28.

    Analysts raised concerns about China's property market, pointing to moves to limit property speculation in 2017 and a likely drop-off in government efforts to boost demand.

    News of a government probe into several futures brokerages over their compliances also weighed on prices.

    "A lack of liquidity and a flurry of negative news have caused more panic, triggering heavy selling," said Li Lin of China Sublime Information Group.

    With nickel futures diving below 6,000 yuan per tonne mark, miners would come under greater pressure.

    Some analysts expect prices to slide further through the start of 2017, until nickel processing plants start buying when they reopen after the Lunar New Year in early February.

    Bloomberg reported on Friday citing a source that Chinese president Xi Jinping told the Communist Party's financial and economic leading group that the world's second-largest economy could tolerate growth lower than 6.5 percent.

    China's crackdown on exhaust-spewing factories including steel mills, textile and cement factories and coal-fired power plants will also ripple across bulk commodity markets into 2017.

    However, copper, which is widely used in power and construction, is up around 16 percent this year and on track for its largest annual rise since 2010.

    PRICES

    Three month LME copper

    Most active ShFE copper

    Three month LME aluminium

    Most active ShFE aluminium

    Three month LME zinc

    Most active ShFE zinc

    Three month LME lead

    Most active ShFE lead

    Three month LME nickel

    Most active ShFE nickel

    Three month LME tin

    Most active ShFE tin ($1 = 6.9485 Chinese yuan renminbi)

    (Reporting by Meng Meng and Xu Muyu in Beijing; Editing by Vyas Mohan)
     
  2. eganon69

    eganon69

    You do realize that Copper and Nickel have been in a bear market for quite some time right? They have gone down while the market has gone up so your premise that the metals go down so will the indices is not quite accurate.

    The charts below are 20 year charts
     
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  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Or... they are strong harbingers of that which is yet to come.
    (And copper is up 16% this year. Strongest since 2010. Just sayin')
     
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    S&P up 10%.
    Copper up 16%
    What am I missing?
    Markets look ahead.... not behind.
    And I didn't coin that phrase "as goes copper"... that's been around for a long time.
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  5. O(1)

    O(1)

  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Well, I can't argue with the charts you posted. Wonder if that has anything to do with Central Banks and QE?