Same levels of testing and review they said.....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Wallet, Aug 24, 2021.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    Pfizer and Moderna lost the clinical trial control group testing vaccine safety and efficacy

    According to the New York Times and multiple media outlets, Pfizer is expected to get full FDA approval today. “The move would make it the first Covid vaccine to go from emergency use authorization to full FDA approval.” (read more) With that in mind, it is worth a reminder that both Pfizer and Moderna stopped the clinical trials the FDA was using in their review:


    The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.

    Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose:

    (Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.

    “During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.”

    He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. “It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.


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    Just so we are clear, the final FDA authorization and approval for the vaccines are based on the outcome of these trials. As noted in the example above, the control group was intentionally lost under the auspices of “the right thing to do”, so there is no way for the efficacy, effectiveness or safety of the vaccine itself to be measured.

    Read more at.....

    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ol-group-testing-vaccine-efficacy-and-safety/
     
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    So what should people take away from this revelation? That one small group of people who broke protocol nullifies all of it?

    Should we go ask phlebotomists to extract the antibodies from our bone marrow so we can start all over?

    WhatEVER.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    "The Conservative Treehouse" serves up another fact-free fictional piece.
     
  4. THE LAW - BAIT AND SWITCH

    2 Things Mainstream Media Didn’t Tell You About FDA’s Approval of Pfizer Vaccine
    Buried in the fine print of Monday’s approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of the Pfizer Comirnaty COVID vaccine are two critical facts that affect whether the vaccine can be mandated, and whether Pfizer can be held liable for injuries.

    By
    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
    Meryl Nass, M.D.



    Given this background, the FDA’s acknowledgement in its approval letter that there are insufficient stocks of the licensed Comirnaty, but an abundant supply of the EUA Pfizer BioNTech jab, exposes the “approval” as a cynical scheme to encourage businesses and schools to impose illegal jab mandates.

    The FDA’s clear motivation is to enable Pfizer to quickly unload inventories of a vaccine that science and the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System have exposed as unreasonably dangerous, and that the Delta variant has rendered obsolete.


    Americans, told that the Pfizer COVID vaccine is now licensed, will understandably assume that COVID vaccine mandates are lawful. But only EUA-authorized vaccines, for which no one has any real liability, will be available during the next few weeks when many school mandate deadlines occur.

    The FDA appears to be purposefully tricking American citizens into giving up their right to refuse an experimental product.

    And FDA has not licensed any Moderna vaccine, nor any vaccine from Johnson & Johnson — so the vast majority of vaccines available in the U.S., if not all, remain unlicensed EUA products.



    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/
     
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Some sources are so disreputable they never should be taken seriously...


    Children’s Health Defense

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    • Overall, we rate the Children’s Health Defense a strong conspiracy and quackery level advocacy group that frequently promotes unsupported claims. We also rate them low for factual reporting due to the promotion of propaganda as well as several failed fact checks.
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/childrens-health-defense/
     
  6. simple business 101

    Pfizer needs to offload inventory otherwise wall street analysts won't be happy

    this comes from the CEO plus a published study [​IMG]

    Posted August 23, 2021.

    The SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant is poised to acquire complete resistance to wild-type spike vaccines

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.full.pdf


    Pfizer CEO says COVID-19 vaccine-resistant variant likely to emerge

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/pfizer-bourla-covid-19-vaccine-resistant-variant-likely-emerge
     
  7. Implied target date for a peak is near 8/26 - 8/29.