But...I thought we were told DeSantis would cave or kill the cruise industry?? Royal Caribbean reverses, won’t require passengers on U.S. cruises to be vaccinated By Taylor Dolven June 04, 2021 06:20 PM, Royal Caribbean International will no longer require any of its cruise passengers to be vaccinated for COVID-19 as it had previously planned to. In a press release Friday announcing cruises for sale on eight of its ships from U.S. ports this summer, starting with Freedom of the Seas from PortMiami on July 2, the company said it will recommend passengers get the COVID-19 vaccine, but not require it. The announcement is a reversal from previous statements andvaccine protocols the company submitted to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last month that said it would require all passengers at least 18 years old and older to be vaccinated. “Guests are strongly recommended to set sail fully vaccinated, if they are eligible,” the company said in a statement. “Those who are unvaccinated or unable to verify vaccination will be required to undergo testing and follow other protocols, which will be announced at a later date.” The about-face is an apparent submission to Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has insisted that there will be no exception made for cruise companies to a newly passed Florida law that fines companies $5,000 each time they ask a patron to provide proof of vaccination. Royal Caribbean International’s sister brand Celebrity Cruises (both owned by Royal Caribbean Group) is still requiring all passengers 16 years old or older be vaccinated on its seven-night Caribbean cruises that are restarting from Port Everglades on June 26. Lyan Sierra-Caro, a spokesperson for Royal Caribbean International, said the plans to require passengers be vaccinated that the company submitted to the CDC only applied to its test cruises. According to CDC rules, cruise ships that don’t meet certain vaccination thresholds for passengers and crew must first do a successful test cruise before they can restart revenue cruises. “Our intention is to comply with all federal, state and local laws,” she said via email. On May 26, the cruise line updated its website to say that passengers 16 years old and older on its cruises from Seattle and The Bahamas are required to be vaccinated. Previously, the website said passengers 16 years old and older on all of the company’s U.S. cruises had to meet the requirement. In a statement CEO Michael Bayley thanked DeSantis and other elected officials for their support of the industry, which has been paralyzed since it was forced to shut down in March 2020 after COVID-19 outbreaks and deaths on several ships. “As of today, 90% of all vacationers booking with Royal Caribbean are either vaccinated or planning to get vaccinated in time for their cruise,” Bayley said in a statement. The company said all crew members will be vaccinated. The recently passed Florida law crafted by the Republican-controlled state Legislature and promoted by Gov. Ron DeSantis bars businesses, schools and government entities across Florida from asking anyone to provide proof of a COVID-19 vaccination. Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, businesses can be fined up to $5,000 per violation. It is unclear if cruise companies will be allowed to ask passengers if they have been vaccinated as part of the boarding process, even if they don’t require vaccination to board. The summer cruises announced by Royal Caribbean International Friday are still pending approval from the CDC after each ship successfully completes a test cruise with volunteer passengers. The CDC has so far approved nine cruise ships, including Freedom of the Seas, Carnival Horizon and MSC Meraviglia from PortMiami, for test cruises, meaning the ships won’t meet a CDC threshold of 95% of passengers and 98% of crew be vaccinated, and two ships — Celebrity Edge and Celebrity Equinox from Port Everglades — for revenue cruises. This story has been updated to include a comment from Royal Caribbean International.
RC realized they were fighting the wrong guy. DeSantis has been working hard to *open* up cruising. Its the CDC that needs a trip to the woodshed.
Precisely. But to understand this relies critical thinking skills. So many lack this and are trying to simply score a narrative point. Cruise industries don't give a shit about COVID. They care about protecting themselves from liability.
It is in fact all about liability. The CDC gave "guidelines" in conflict with the laws of RC's operating base Florida. I'm sure there was a ton of back and forth with their underwriters trying to figure out if they were going to be covered. It looks like those who insure cruise-lines figured out that being compliant with the laws of their operating base would be prudent and continued coverage provided and that the CDC is a toothless and confused political entity to be simply ignored.
We are a tiny company in comparison (a bit less than 1B) and we went back and forth with external and internal counsel for two months on liability and mask policy, etc. Once DeSantis came out with his "no mask" issuance, we felt much better. It was never about who could get COVID. I can't imagine the liability discussions at a cruise line.
Let's be sure you still understand the following: 1) ALL passengers on Royal Caribbean will still be required to provide their vaccination status and proof of it if they claim to be vaccinated. Those who are not vaccinated will be required to go through addition testing and follow other protocols on the ships -- which may include wearing a mask. “Those who are unvaccinated or unable to verify vaccination will be required to undergo testing and follow other protocols." 2) Royal Caribbean caters to families. Many children cannot be vaccinated yet. Due to this Royal Caribbean has followed the test cruise protocol to allow the cruise line to avoid having to stick with a 95% threshold for passenger vaccinations -- assuming CDC approval. 3) Celebrity Cruise lines, a subsidiary of RCL, is doing the first cruises out of Florida in late June. Celebrity Cruises still requires proof of vaccination and will meet the 95% threshold. Celebrity caters to an older crowd with fewer children onboard. P.S. -- I thought you claimed to never read the Miami Herald which you claim to be a liberal anti-DeSantis rag. I guess this is why you tried to hide the source and did not provide the url in clear text.
Your reading comprehension is very poor. PROOF OF VACCINATION IS STILL REQUIRED. Royal Caribbean still requires proof of vaccination if you claim to be vaccinated. They did not bend to DeSantis' will -- they simply decided to go the "test cruise" route so a 95% threshold of vaccinated passengers would not be required. They did this because they cater to families and many kids cannot be vaccinated yet. Seeing even under a 95% threshold -- passengers were not required to be vaccinated (5% were allowed to not be) -- your nonsense does not even make sense.