Risk reward sucks for options

Discussion in 'Options' started by wxytrader, Jul 29, 2024.

  1. Looking at 5 contracts of the Aug9 NVDA 112 call @ 4.75 for a total cost of 2375

    If we have the following outcomes by AUG8 these are the results:

    1SD move is 115.64 (@ 3.97) = pnl of -390 (risk reward = 6:-1)
    2SD move is 119.03 (@ 7.08) = pnl of 1309 (risk reward = 2:1)
    3SD move is 122.72 (@ 11.02) = pnl of 3136 (risk reward = 1:1.3)

    So basically if we use a 1:1.5 risk reward as a minimum benchmark you pretty much need a 3SD move to maintain that ratio.

    These calcs are with 10% adj for vol to increase from the current 58% to 68% which is the current IV for the 103 Call which is roughly 10 itm.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2024
  2. poopy

    poopy

    durrrr. there are no Aug11s.
     
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  3. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    If the risk reward sucks for the option buyer, shouldn't it then be awesome for the option seller?

    So sell the option.
     
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  4. drrr aug9

    Hey D can I join your group yet?
     
  5. poopy

    poopy


    lol it has to unanimous so imagine that's a no.
     
  6. I've looked at fly's and basically a lotto ticket...sure you don't risk much but that shows on the pnl chart. I can't stand spreads of any kind...all they do is suck away profits. Over time I question whether the money you save on spreads will outperform the money you leave on the table.
     
  7. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    only sell options
     
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  10. poopy

    poopy

    Simple fly +exp

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    NVDA unimodal risk against index. Bounded risk.

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    #10     Jul 29, 2024