Risk-less collars and margin

Discussion in 'Options' started by SoCalOptionsWriter, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. What should the margin be with portfolio margin? Should I be pleased with tying up 10 percent or so of the underlying? mean, really, what is the risk I need to post margin for? How can I blow up? What if I used ES/MES and SPAN?
     
  2. destriero

    destriero

    What's a riskless collar?
     
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  3. XYZ bought at 10 and simultaneously selling a 10 call and using the premium for buying a 10 put, all the same expiration.
     
  4. destriero

    destriero


    It's riskless, but you cannot make anything. Stress it in your front end.

    Short call + put = synthetic long at $10-strike. Price should equal the forward to exp.
    Long shares at 10.

    Should be less than $70 under PM to carry the arb. There are no greeks (outside of some rho).
     
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  5. destriero

    destriero

    Note the delta position.

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  6. destriero

    destriero

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  7. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    This is called a Conversion. The short side is called a Reversal.

    I had so many more questions, but was hoping someone else would ask. Riskless collar? 10%? SPAN/PMA? I have never hear of a Riskless collar,

     
  8. destriero

    destriero

    Nobody is going to give you edge on a 3-way so you will lose comms even if you fill the above prices.
     
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  9. destriero

    destriero


    Conv is long shares, but it's semantics.
     
  10. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    His example was long stock, long put and short calls. Like we both said, that is the conversion.

     
    #10     Jan 2, 2024