Republicans attempt to blame COVID on immigrants

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  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    DeSantis’ effort to blame COVID-19 spread on migrants is short on evidence
    https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...d-19-spread-on-migrants-is-short-on-evidence/

    As coronavirus cases spike nationally, and especially in Florida, a blame game has erupted between President Joe Biden and Florida’s Republican governor, Ron DeSantis.

    Florida has the second-highest per-capita coronavirus case load of any state as of Aug. 6, exceeding its level at any point during the pandemic. Florida also has the highest coronavirus hospitalization rate of any state, at more than three times the national average.

    Biden pointed this out in remarks on Aug. 3. “Make no mistake,” he said. “The escalation of cases is particularly concentrated in states with low vaccination rates. Just two states, Florida and Texas, account for one-third of all new COVID-19 cases in the entire country. ... Look, we need leadership from everyone. And if some governors aren’t willing to do the right thing to beat this pandemic, then they should allow businesses and universities who want to do the right thing to be able to do it.”

    DeSantis unloaded on Biden during an Aug. 4 news conference in Panama City.

    “He’s imported more virus from around the world by having a wide-open southern border. You have hundreds of thousands of people pouring across every month,” DeSantis said. “You have over 100 different countries where people are pouring through. Not only are they letting them through — they’re then farming them out all across our communities across this country. Putting them on planes, putting them on buses.”

    DeSantis doubled down in a fundraising letter later that day: “Joe Biden has the nerve to tell me to get out of the way on COVID while he lets COVID-infected migrants pour over our southern border by the hundreds of thousands. No elected official is doing more to enable the transmission of COVID in America than Joe Biden with his open borders policies.”

    Public health experts said it’s reasonable to be concerned about coronavirus spreading among migrants, especially if they’re living in close quarters. “It would be fair to say that detention centers, like prisons, are likely to be ‘hotspots’ for transmission,” said Babak Javid, a professor of medicine at the University of California-San Francisco. “We saw a lot of this last year,” earlier in the pandemic.

    But they said there is no evidence it’s happening on the scale that DeSantis described.

    It may well be that immigrants coming illegally into the country are contributing to COVID-19 caseloads, “but given the extensive transmission already in the U.S., the immigration contribution is akin to pouring a bucket of water into a swimming pool,” said William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University. “It’s hard to measure and pretty trivial.”

    U.S.-Mexico border not ‘wide open’
    In a statement, DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw focused on the migrants who make it across the border without detection. She acknowledged that migration is not the only factor in COVID-19 spread.

    “We know tens of thousands of migrants cross the border illegally every month,” she said. “Officials don’t have a precise number, because the border is porous, and it stands to reason that many people enter undetected. ... Some of those countries where a significant portion of the migrants hail from, such as Haiti, have extremely low rates of COVID vaccination.”

    Still, it is wrong to say, as DeSantis did, that the southern border is “wide open” for everyone to just come into the country. Most people who are encountered are turned away under a public health law invoked by Trump’s administration and continued by Biden.

    Border officials — at and between ports of entries — recorded more than 822,000 encounters with migrants from February to June, and most of those people were expelled under the public health law. These individuals don’t get to stay in the country to request asylum or other immigration protection.

    Nicole Hallett, a professor and director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School, told PolitiFact that the apprehension numbers reflect that people trying and failing to cross multiple times.

    “Apprehensions have increased because of the strict COVID restrictions, not because restrictions have eased,” Hallett said.

    The Biden administration has allowed certain groups of migrants to file for immigration protection, such as children arriving alone at the southern border and some families with young children. The Department of Homeland Security, however, said it had recently resumed expedited removal flights for certain families who recently arrived at the southern border.

    Officials in February began to let in asylum seekers who were waiting for a resolution of their U.S. immigration cases in Mexico under the Trump-era Remain in Mexico program. (Biden ended that program in June.)

    The United States is also temporarily limiting inbound land border crossings from Mexico; non-essential travel is not allowed.

    Customs and Border Protection told PolitiFact in April that personnel do initial inspections for symptoms or risk factors associated with COVID-19 and consult with onsite medical personnel, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or local health systems as appropriate.

    DHS also said in April that it works with state and local authorities and non-governmental organizations to make sure that all migrants are tested for COVID-19 “at some point during their immigration journey.”

    This doesn’t mean that the chance of coronavirus spread on the border is zero. For instance, McAllen, Texas, along the border with Mexico, has seen an increasing number of migrants arriving in recent weeks. According to the city, more than 7,000 migrants have tested positive for the coronavirus, out of 87,000 migrants who had passed through the city.

    But drawing a clear line between migrants and the spread of the coronavirus throughout the U.S., as DeSantis did, requires a sense of how many migrants are evading detection and how many of them are infected.

    “Otherwise, it is a statement without any facts to substantiate it,” said Nicole Gatto, an associate professor in Claremont Graduate University’s school of community and global health.

    The current surge is driven by community spread
    The data for coronavirus cases provides poor support for the notion that the virus is being spread by illegal immigration.

    Significant outbreaks are happening well inland from the border, in states like Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky and Missouri. Public health experts express skepticism that illegal border crossings are to blame for these outbreaks.

    If DeSantis were correct, the land border between the U.S. and Mexico would be among the hardest-hit parts of the country, since even if migrants eventually disperse to other locations, they would have an impact on coronavirus rates locally first.

    However, the entire land border between San Diego and the southern tip of Texas shows relatively low case rates compared with the entire southeastern quadrant of the U.S.

    Given this data, “it doesn’t seem right that illegal immigration is driving the current surge,” said Javid, the University of California-San Francisco professor.

    There’s also a more plausible explanation for the coronavirus surge’s current pattern: Case rates are higher in places with lower rates of vaccination.

    An analysis by the New York Times found that at the end of July, counties with vaccination rates below 30 percent had coronavirus case rates well over double the case rates in counties with at least 60 percent vaccination. And five of the six least-vaccinated states — Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, and Mississippi — are all squarely within the geographical quadrant of the country that has the highest case rates.

    Some of the hardest-hit places, such as southwestern Missouri, are far from the border, while others, such as southern Louisiana, are on the water.

    “The pattern of distribution of coronavirus cases does not correspond in any way to immigrant movement,” said Arthur Caplan, director of the division of medical ethics at the New York University Grossman School of Medicine. “And the paths to ‘bringing’ COVID here are many, including tourists, diplomats, boat workers, student exchange, and cruises.”

    Caplan said he views DeSantis’ statements as the latest in a long history of efforts to offload blame for infectious diseases on immigrants.

    “The notion of immigrants bringing disease has been alleged about Gypsies, Jews, Italians, Irish, and Blacks,” he said. “As we know from Ebola, SARS, and influenza, infections get here all the time. The issue is what we do to stop their spread.”

    Our ruling
    DeSantis said Biden has driven the current coronavirus surge because he “imported more virus from around the world by having a wide-open southern border.”

    The available evidence shows that coronavirus hot spots tend to be clustered either far from the border or on the water, whereas the entire land border with Mexico has fairly low rates. The hotspot locations tend to correlate with low rates of vaccination among the public.

    In addition, the U.S. does not have a “wide open” border. Most people who are encountered are turned away under a Trump-era policy that Biden continued.

    We rate the statement False.
     
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    DeSantis, Republicans are shamefully scapegoating immigrants on COVID
    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article253339323.html

    One of my favorite bumper stickers — and a personal philosophy — says If at first you don’t succeed – blame whoever ain’t here.

    That seems to be the motto of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and other Republican leaders when it comes to the resurgence of COVID-19 and its variant strains.

    The re-emergence of a new strain of the disease that a few short months ago seemed en route to eradication couldn’t possibly have anything to do with their refusal to follow CDC guidelines and implement mask mandates or, with some, discouraging people on vaccinations, could it?

    Not to hear them tell it.

    DeSantis and others are instead blaming the surge on immigrants crossing over into America on our southern border. “Why don’t you get this border secure?” DeSantis snapped at President Biden in a recent speech when Biden told Republican governors to implement mask mandates or at least get out of the way of institutions that want to impose them.

    “Until you do that,” DeSantis declaimed, “I don’t want to hear a blip about COVID from you.” Such political posturing may score points with his base, but it’ll do nothing to save Floridians’ lives.

    Not only has DeSantis refused to mandate masks, but he has vowed to cut funds to school districts that try to do so. In other words, we’re not going to help you, and we’re not going to allow you to help yourselves. Why?

    Freedom, he says. “We can either have a free society or we can have a biomedical security state,” he said in a head scratcher of a statement.

    Spouting non sequiturs and casting blame elsewhere may be the only arrows in his quiver when you consider that Florida accounts 6.5 percent of the U.S. population but, according to the CDC, accounts for 22 percent of new COVID cases.

    The state has had nearly 20,000 new hospital admissions related to the virus each day for the past week, as of Friday.

    On top of the re-emerging virus is a nationwide shortage in registered nurses to care for the patients occupying hospital beds.

    Coincidence?

    Nope. Many experts see a link between the virus, which has killed more than 600,000 people in America in a little over a year and a half, and the nursing shortage. They say an aging workforce is one reason for the shortage, but the main reason is nurse burnout from pandemic duties. It’s not hard to imagine that caring for people to whom you can offer little but a tender smile would cause burnout, would cause you to look elsewhere for a better-paying, less stressful job.

    This shortage, years in the making, is becoming more pronounced right now as hospital admissions and deaths increased by 40 percent nationally in the past week, according to the CDC.

    In a Washington Post story, White House coronavirus coordinator Jeff Zients pointed to seven southern states — Florida, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi — as accounting for about half of all new infections and hospitalizations over the past week, even as these states represent less than a quarter of the American population.

    Having cynical politicians attempting to sow suspicion of government vaccination efforts – N.C.’s own state Rep. Madison Cawthorn is a leader in that dubious effort — or to diminish the importance of vaccines and masks certainly can’t help the mood of nurses or those interested in a healthcare career.

    A buddy of mine, a true patriot and USMC vet, offered this suggestion which I, also a patriot, am glad to pass along to DeSantis and De-whomever: instead of demonizing immigrants trying to enter the country, why not – get this - train them to become nurses so they can help treat the people infected by the virus?

    Genius, right?

    Indeed, and he said he’ll share his Nobel Prize proceeds with me.
     
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  3. Illegal aliens crossing in by the hundreds of thousands on a monthly basis is a super spreader event. It's pure denial and delusional thinking that number of people coming in with such regularity aren't playing a major role in the spike In cases. Millions have come in under and Biden administration and the narrative is none of them have had Covid. It's a miracle.
     
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  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Super Spreader in more ways than one.
     
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So why isn't the primary variant in Mexico spreading all over the U.S.?
     
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    gwb-trading

  7. Wallet

    Wallet

    Fox reported this morning. NBC has ran it.... 20-25% of migrants crossing the border are covid positive.

    Let that sink in for a moment.

    What’s worse they only test those who appear symptomatic..... the actual count is higher.

    They’re being herded together and transported all across the country. There’s no way in hell that they are not impacting and infecting everyone they come across.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...order-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244
     
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes.... and 85% of illegal immigrants apprehended are immediately shipped back. What is your point? Show us were the variant found in Mexico are being found in the U.S. -- beside the detention facilities among the immigrant population.
     
  9. The point is, according to border agents for every illegal detained four get through free and clear. We can safely speculate the same percent of those have Covid as those being detained. Thousands upon thousands of Covid positive illegals every single month. And I hope you're not trying to sell the nonsensical idea that none of them ever go any further than the border states. That is laughable.
     
    #10     Aug 9, 2021