Remember Wall Street’s Viral Laughingstock, OptionSeller.com?

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  1. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    Remember Wall Street’s Viral Laughingstock, OptionSeller.com?


    His ex-investors sure do.

    May 13, 2020

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    James Cordier, in a video posted last year. (via YouTube/Illustration by II)
    At least one former investor in the blown-up OptionSeller.com died awaiting restitution, and lawyers worry that the legal battles will outlive more clients.

    Retirees lost everything (and then some) that they’d invested with James Cordier — the pyrotechnician behind commodity-trading advisor OptionSeller, which flamed out in late 2018.

    Cordier was popular with old folks.

    “l have asked that the elderly clients in their 80s and 90s have accelerated processing,” said attorney John Chapman in an interview. “They don’t have five or six years to wait. One client has already passed away.” Chapman’s firm represents about 110 ex-investors in one of several protracted legal campaigns against Cordier, his company, and broker-dealer INTL FCStone.

    Cordier became infamous in finance circles from his viral and cringe-worthy apology video, which has been viewed more than half a million times. In the video, he sits at a boardroom table in a suit and tie, wearing cufflinks and a Rolex-resembling watch.

    “Needless to say, the events of this past week have been incredibly devastating for our clients,” Cordier told the camera, crying. “To my client in Marseille, my wife and I were certainly looking forward to joining you in the French Riviera. It sounded so beautiful.”

    OptionSellers.com managed money for 290 individuals and specialized in its namesake technique of selling options to produce income. The firm lost all of its capital in volatile energy markets and left many clients on the hook to settle trade balances, according to legal filings.

    [IIDeep dive:He Blew Up His Fund. Now He’s a Laughingstock.]

    Many clients sued more than a year ago, and are pursuing broker FCStone for millions via arbitration through the National Futures Association. FCStone, in turn, has shot back with its own claims, Chapman said.

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    “Not only did everybody lose 100 percent of their investment, they were also hit with margin debt calls equal to about a third of their investment,” the lawyer said by phone early last week. “FCStone has additionally been demanding that clients also pay interest on that money. Clients are taking out second mortgages just to put potatoes on the table. And now FCStone is demanding victims pay the attorneys’ fees” if the investors lose. “It’s pretty scorched earth.”

    Destitute investors are going after Cordier’s broker. OptionsSeller didn’t carry insurance and losses exceed $100 million, according to Chapman.

    FCStone claims that it only served as a clearing firm, whereas several investor cases argue that OptionSeller acted as its agent and FCStone should be on the hook for restitution and damages.

    “Clearing firms perform limited administrative functions,” FCStone said in a statement toInstitutional Investor. “When extreme volatility in November 2018 caused OptionSellers’ customers to suffer losses that exceeded their margin deposits, certain of OptionSellers’ customers refused to meet their obligations and brought their own claims or counterclaims against FCStone.” The firm believes that the claims are not founded.

    Cordier’s attorneys did not return messages asking for comment.

    But the infamous video star has surprisingly faded to the background of the “scorched earth” situation his trading wrought. Investors do have outstanding legal claims against him, but the focus of litigation appears to be on FCStone — a multinational corporation with a big balance sheet and legal firepower to match.

    “Cordier is still living large down in the Tampa area. He did not declare bankruptcy,” Chapman said.

    As for his ex-clients, “These people work all their lives to make a nice middle-class life, and then the bottom drops out and they drop out of the middle class. They don’t even understand why it happened,” Chapman said.

    “They rely on these jackasses who said they know what they’re doing,” the lawyer went on. “It’s very sad.”

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  2. When you "write naked", you're taking a BIG risk... whether you realize it or not.... especially when you're "so damned sure you'll get away with it"... and lever up big time.

    (I was "on their list" as an accredited investor prospect... don't know where they got my name.... but when I saw what they were sometimes doing I said, "no thanks".)
     
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  3. how long did James Cordier last before he blew up, given that he was employing a risky strategy? Seems like he did quite well for himself despite the blow-up. It appears that his investors were hurt more deeply than him.
     
  4. Always the case. Victor Niederhoffer?
     
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  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    The lucky ones are those who lost big early, stopped taking on too much risks and survived to trade another day.

    Unless you trade OPM instead of your own fund.
     
  6. I'm entertained by the notion of "what if you traded ALL of your mother's money"?

    If you blew up and bankrupted your mom... and she had to come and live in your basement... where you'd "hear about it every day for the rest of your life".... what kinds of risks would you take? :)
     
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  7. Good point. If I were to put my money with a money manager, I'll choose a fund which invests his mother's money. That way, I can rest assure that irresponsible risks at my expense are not taken.
     
  8. Years ago when there was the "US Investing Championships"... a real money audited contest... there were categories for stocks, bonds, options, option writing, mutual funds, others... and various size accounts... like $5K, $50K, $500K... and eventually through the MMVR, $1,000,000. You had trade real-time, $1,000,000 or more and have the results audited!

    Someone proposed an even more demanding category... "All of your mother's money"! Now there's a concept!

    There's a notion that you'd take a risk with $5K that you would not with $1,000,000. So... what risks would you take with "all of your mother's money"?

    :)
     
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  9. guru

    guru


    He wrote his popular book on selling option in 2004, so must’ve been longer than 16 years.
     
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Mother's money is not OPM, it is my inheritance, my money. :D
     
    #10     May 14, 2020
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