Put/call ratio.

Discussion in 'Options' started by trader2056, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. Hi Guys,

    Let's say you use put/call ratio as part of your trading strategy, which put/call ratio would you use?

    1. put/call ratio based on exchange-trade volume.
    2. put/call ratio that also takes into account OTC traded volume.

    Regards
    Trader2056
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2015
  2. What use is Put/Call Ratio?

    • Call Credit Spreads are not bullish.
    • Covered Calls are not bullish.
    • Short Calls are not bullish.

    As you can see the above positions involve calls only and the Put/Call Ratio signals BULLISH. Back to the drawing board.


    :)
     
  3. Well. Lets assume it's of use then which one of my suggestions would you pick. Anyone?
     
  4. Sig

    Sig

    Why would you pick any of them? Put call parity and the ability to short stocks and treasuries means that you can produce the same exposure with a put as a call, making a ratio between the two as meaningful as the put/put ratio.
     
  5. xandman

    xandman

    It's a blunt indicator. You never really know if it is a position or a hedge. It doesn't show net delta. It doesn't show convexity.

    Use what you can get easily.
     
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    So, what about using OI of say x% OTM puts vs x% OTM calls as a comparator for bullish/bearish indicator for that particular underlying?
     
  7. xandman

    xandman

    Rather exotic, where can I read more about this?

    There is a phenomenon called "pinning" that you can research further. But, that is in Secret Sauce territory.
     
  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    I don't know, being new to options trading, I kind of assumed index is for the pros because of their high volume and liquidity and I figured I was not smart enough to trade against them so I mainly traded thinly traded underlying. I noticed for those, there were often mismatched between OI for calls and the counter puts (not to confuse with put/call parity) and traded accordingly and sometimes I got good results, even with wide bid/ask.

    Again, thanks for your "pinning" suggestion. I will take a look and hope to learn something new.

    Regards,
     
  9. xandman

    xandman

    Be careful of theoretical rabbit holes. Keep studying the (options)Greeks and model your trades.

    "80% of what you need to know in trading, you already know. You just don't know it yet."
    - Confucious, 1200 BC
     
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Didn't know Confucious was an option trader.

    Cheers.
     
    #10     Jun 7, 2015