Probability for PnL >= 0 for 1DTE

Discussion in 'Options' started by Quanto, Jan 23, 2024.

What is the probability for PnL >= 0 for a 1DTE/ATM_IV300 trade with the following PnL diagram?

  1. about 66%

  2. about 32%

  3. about 88%

  4. about 53%

  5. it's much different from the above ones

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  1. Quanto

    Quanto

    What is the probability for PnL >= 0 for a 1DTE/ATM_IV300 trade with the following PnL diagram?
    a) about 66%
    b) about 32%
    c) about 88%
    d) about 53%
    e) it's much different from the above ones

    What formula do you use for computing the said probability?

    Info: the trade resembles a CoveredCall (S=10) or its synthetic, ShortPut, as both have a similar looking outcome (curve) at expiration (the orange line on the PnL chart below). Wikipedia: "The payoff from selling a covered call is identical to selling a short naked put. Both variants are a short implied volatility strategy."

    https://optioncreator.com/st24lqk or https://optioncreator.com/stzqa0r
    PnL_chart_of_1DTE_ATM_IV300.png
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2024
  2. Quanto

    Quanto

    My calc gives an unbelievably high 88%, but I'm not sure, maybe buggy, hence asking you the crowd for help...
     
  3. 2rosy

    2rosy

    where's the underlying? then pdf
     
  4. Quanto

    Quanto

    I just performed a Monte Carlo simulation, and the winner is.... 66 % ! :)
    Problem solved! Case closed.

    PM me if you have questions regarding the MC simulation (I used standard C++ w/o any external library, that's C++11 or higher std).
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2024
  5. Quanto

    Quanto

    Hmm. after thinking some more on the problem, I get the impression that p should be higher than the said 66%.
    Maybe the MCsim was not correct yet.
    The question is open again. If someone gets a different value than 66% then lets talk about it...
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2024
  6. Quanto

    Quanto

    Underlying is not necessary since we know the outcome at expiration (ie. the posted PnL chart).
    The B/E point is 9.3742. We need the p for greater equal that stock price.
     
  7. 2rosy

    2rosy

    you know the BE. What if 1 DTE the underlying is $10 below BE? What if 1 DTE the underlying is $10 above BE? Don't you think that matters to answer your question?
     
  8. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I'm not sure your MC simulation takes into account the expectancy of the stocks going down well below break even. I'm not a fan of these trades and feel the risk reward is very low.

     
  9. Quanto

    Quanto

    At close on 1DTE the stock price is the shown initial $10 and IV is 300. For the close on the next day (ie. expiration), p for Sx >= BEP 9.3742 is sought. If one does the "usual calculation" then one gets the said 66%, but the usual calc is maybe insufficient.
    Need to find the correct solution to this math problem... The devil is in the detail, as usual.
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2024
  10. Quanto

    Quanto

    IV already implies every possible outcome.
    The annualized result is very high, b/c here DTE=1.
     
    #10     Jan 23, 2024