Poor man's covered call

Discussion in 'Options' started by Pekelo, Dec 25, 2020.

  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Buying an ITM leap, and selling OTM weeklies/monthlies to recoup your premium.

     
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Either the leap will have time value that will drag on your earnings (won’t be sufficiently in the money) or the leap won’t provide any margin relief vs owning the stock.
     
  3. taowave

    taowave

    Give an example and assume you get assigned on the first call you sell(yes,highly unlikely)

    It's,going to come down to the strike differential vs what you paid for the spread and the residual value of the corresponding leap put should assigned on the,short call..Im ignoring divs and rebate...

    In a nutshell extrinsic value on ITM leap vs OTM shorter dated call
     
  4. 2rosy

    2rosy

    poorer man's covered call: sell a put
     

  5. Too much margin required.
     
  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    It sounds like a another lazy individual, who posted on reedit, who thinks he can outsmart the market without much work.
     
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Well, Mr. Buzzkill, you didn't read the thread, did you?
     
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  8. that thread went off the rails
     
  9. zdreg

    zdreg

    Understood.
     
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    For those who were too weak to actually click on the thread (I know, it was hard work) and read at least the top comments, here it is:

    exlevy

    "Correct. I have leaps on PLTR and sell monthlies on it. They’re fantastic at generating income. You’re correct about collecting premium to eventually outweigh your risk. But here’s something else you can do. If your leaps end up deeper and deeper ITM like 0.9 delta or higher consider selling those leaps for a sweet sweet profit and take money off the table but allocate the same risk for a higher strike essentially rolling your leaps forward and locking in gains. Then continue to sell against the position.

    Key things to remember

    Long position

    Make sure when you setup your leaps they have a delta of at least 0.7 delta or higher. You’ll pay more but have more of a price action cushion. Also super important only buy contracts when IV is low compared to HV.

    Short position

    Sell monthly opex as they have higher liquidity compared to weeklies. Better liquidity equals less slippage leading to better profit potential (narrower bid/ask spread on contracts)

    Then sell those contracts and collect sweet premium."
     
    #10     Dec 26, 2020