Poll: How often do you reoptimize ?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by TrAndy2022, Dec 12, 2023.

How often do you reoptimize

Poll closed Dec 19, 2023.
  1. every hour

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. every day

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. every week

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. every 2 weeks

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. every month

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  6. every quarter

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  7. every semi-year

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  8. every year

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. every 3 years

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  10. never

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  1. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    In your trading strategy how often do you reoptimize your settings to have the best fit on current market conditions ?
     
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  2. Quanto

    Quanto

    In my case (equity options trading) optimization means to refresh the watchlist. This task requires scanning (ie. filtering), ranking, and time-consuming manual analysis (ie. manual verification) of those top ranked...
    Takes in my case about 4 hrs each time, incl. downloading of the data of all tickers (this alone takes about 1.5 hrs :))... So doing this only once every 2 weeks or so... b/c costly in terms of money, work and time...
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2023
  3. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    it should be centered around deviation of current and historical pattern reliability. not some man made time interval.
     
  4. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    Okay, but to be concrete, when did you last time reoptimize your strategy ?
     
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  5. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    first when picking parameters i don't choose best results i choose something in the middle of the pack. i know that by dumbing down the performance i can gain long term stability. then only when the model deviates beyond it's historical drawdown. still the system will return half it's losses back. around that comeback i will reoptimize and see what's up. m
     
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  6. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

  7. I'm not sure that's really optimisation, we're talking about some kind of parameter fitting process I think.

    I run a daily optimisation to determine what trades I should do, but the parameters that control the forecasts which dictate those trades are never optimised. So I answered 'never'. The parameters are based on 50 years of data. Having another year of data is irrelevant.

    Most people optimise too much and too often. Even HFT guys only optimise about every 3 - 6 months.

    A lot of this is to do with people not designing strategies that automatically cope with changes to eg volatility, price levels and so on. If you don't scale your forecasts according to vol estimates, you'd have to reoptimise every time volatility changes.

    GAT
     
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  8. Good Morning TrAndy2022,

    My eyes LOVE and MASTER every market conditions the ES futures market brings my way.

    I will never reoptimize nothing.
     
  9. %%
    Good ; TM did it well in the 1970's, just in time inventory, great co, but i never do that.
    But related to that\ time about SEPT sells month are very common in stocks\ETFs\Apples.......
    I constantly do research + trend study, but its divided in bull + bear markets more than a man made time . So typical poll= not enough choices , but good question:caution::caution:
     
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  10. Quanto

    Quanto

    So, then mine is similar: the parameters are constant, don't change; only the watchlist content changes.
    I now have changed my vote to "never" from "every 2 weeks".

    Yes, agree. Optimization should also include and auto-optimize such of the processes.
     
    #10     Dec 12, 2023
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