PDT Rule Violation Warning While Trading Futures on IBKR?

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by Ates, Aug 23, 2024.

  1. Ates

    Ates

    Hi everyone,

    I'm currently trading futures and futures on options on IBKR, but I've been getting warnings about violating the PDT (Pattern Day Trader) rule. As far as I know, PDT rules shouldn't apply to futures or futures on options trading, so this is quite confusing.

    Here's a bit more context:

    • My account is primarily used for trading futures and futures on options.
    • Despite this, I'm still receiving PDT violation warnings.
    • I also have some some stocks and stock options but i don't trade them same day.
    Has anyone else encountered this issue on IBKR? Is it possible that this is a glitch or a setting I need to adjust? I'd appreciate any insights or advice on how to resolve this.

    Thanks in advance for your help!
     
  2. Real Money

    Real Money

    What is your settled cash amount?
     
  3. Ates

    Ates

    Shows negative now
     
  4. Real Money

    Real Money

    That may be the problem.
     
  5. qwerty11

    qwerty11

    futures on options?
     
  6. Doesn't make any sense. I assume it's a glitch. If you email them they'll eventually get back to you. Futures and futures options (which is considered futures) should be exempt from PDT
     
  7. poopy

    poopy

    It's not a glitch. The futures req probably took him under $25K while he traded more than three round trips in equities. They still seg the futures so it will reset when the futures are gone.
     
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    It sounds like you are trading FOPs on stocks. If you are, then section 1256 does not apply, because those are considered equity options (and the futures on them are considered "equity futures".)

    Without section 1256 protection, the PDT rule will apply.
     
  9. poopy

    poopy

    lol wrong.
     
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  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    I don't make this shit up, dude.

    This is from IRS form 6781. Jesus...

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    #10     Aug 23, 2024
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