Option margin calculator for Reverse Conversion (and other strategies)

Discussion in 'Options' started by Vladimirsnap, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Good day!

    Could you help me to find option margin calculator for this strategy?
    CBOE Margin calculator doesn't have this one.

    And another question. Is it possible that different brokers have completely different margin calculation for option strategies? Could you recommend some with a minimal margin?
     
  2. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    It is not clear to me how, as a customer, you can make money with Rev/Con trades, but I'm happy to discuss this with you if you email me your contact information. Margin is a Portfolio Margin account for this is nominal but your cost of carry will be higher than a bank desk or market maker.

    Bob
     
  3. Dael

    Dael

  4. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    I think this is an equity option question. If it is, the OCC website would be better http://apps.theocc.com/pmc/pmc.do

    Because PM is risk based, it will likely be the minimum calculation of $37.50/options but your clearing broker can ask for more. This strategy will not be margin efficient in a Reg-T account.
     
  5. Thank you!

    Yes, it is a equity options.
    And for Rev/Con strategy it isn't a lot of margin requirement because position has a delta near 0.
     
  6. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    Correct, but don't confuse zero delta with zero risk.
     
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    This is a correct statement.
     
  8. JackRab

    JackRab

    Yeah, I've seen questions about conversions and reversals before... there's absolutely nothing in there for retail traders. The fees alone will make this a losing trade...

    Unless you're trying to evade taxes on dividends, but reversals usually already trade below the gross dividend.

    Maybe... you're holding stock which has a high short stock rate and trying to get a bit of that action through long synth selling your stock balance?
     
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Correct. Too many sides to take into account cost-wise.
     
    #10     Sep 1, 2016