% of net liq in brokerage account to be used in trading stocks or options

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by IBRex&me user, Jun 2, 2024.

  1. Elite traders, l want to ask for your opinons:
    1. what % of an account should be used for trading options or options on futures like /es /nq or /mes /mnq and how do you measure that % ? (l think its the % of bpr or maintenance margin required divided by net liq) . to make an 'acceptable' amount I realise that smaller accounts will have to use a far larger % than big accounts. is there a link for video or info on this
    2. what is best way to grow a tiny 7k account?

    thanks
     
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  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    the answer is based on a function of how much you are willing to lose if you are wrong and how many times you will be wrong vs right.
     
  3. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Correlation of the assets would also enter into the decision and depend on your style and possibly even taxes. It's not a simple answer.
     
  4. Cabin1111

    Cabin1111

    I looked...(couldn't ask the right questions on Google), what percentage of margin accounts (say under $50,000.), are profitable after one years of active trading??

    I'm sure there are studies or empirical data...

    Just curious...
     
  5. tomkat22

    tomkat22

    I'd guess about 3% (if that). And those are probably because of luck. Any schmuck with 2k can open a margin account.
     
  6. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    The State securities regulators collect the data and you can visit them. The data amazes everyone, but my quoting it just brings out idiot comments. The data was more skewed with time held as opposed to account size. Go visit your State regulators.
     
  7. mervyn

    mervyn

    if op trades only futures, it wouldn’t make a difference, other than ib has a much higher margin requirement. futures margin is not the same as equities margin, which effectively is a loan.
     
  8. mervyn

    mervyn

    start with basic stop loss 2% rule.
     
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  9. BMK

    BMK

    Are you referring to data that shows the percentage of accounts that are profitable?

    I would love to see that kind of data, but i couldn't find anything on the website of the Michigan securities regulatory agency. I feel like I'm looking for a needle in a haystack. I didn't even see any links to any kind of data like that.

    Can you provide some links, or point me in the right direction?

    It can be any state; doesn't have to be Michigan.
     
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  10. Cabin1111

    Cabin1111

    Links to peer-reviewed papers...
     
    #10     Jun 2, 2024