Obama orders coal power-plant pollution cuts

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Big power-plant pollution cuts are ordered
    http://www.wral.com/epa-seeks-to-cut-power-plant-carbon-by-30-percent/13692926/

    In a sweeping initiative to curb pollutants blamed for global warming, the Obama administration unveiled a plan Monday aimed at cutting carbon dioxide emissions from power plants by nearly a third by 2030. But it delays the deadline for some states to begin complying until long after President Barack Obama leaves office.

    The 645-page plan, expected to be finalized next year, is a centerpiece of Obama's efforts to deal with climate change and seeks to give the United States more leverage to prod other countries to act when negotiations on a new international treaty resume next year. Under the plan, carbon emissions are to be reduced 30 percent by 2030, compared to 2005 levels, in what would amount to one of the most significant U.S. actions on global warming.

    The proposal sets off a complex regulatory process, steeped in politics, in which the 50 states will each determine how to meet customized targets set by the Environmental Protection Agency, then submit those plans for approval.


    (Much more at above url)

    First let provide some background about coal power plants in North Carolina. The Triangle area of North Carolina is surrounded by coal-fired power plants that lead to high pollution levels of hard particles. Duke and Progress Energy (now merged) have strongly resisted putting scrubber equipment on their power plants to eliminate hard-particle pollution that causes health problems for many residents of central North Carolina (see the current pictures of China or old pictures of East Germany for examples of bad coal pollution).

    Due to this, I support this initiative from the Obama administration. The proposed regulations include the requirement to reduce hard particle pollution as well as the CO2 reduction.

    I will admit that I don't really care about the CO2 reduction - I have seen no reasonable evidence that CO2 generated by man causes global warming. This leads to the two problems I have with the Obama administration band-wagon:

    1) The focus should have been solely on hard-particle pollution. The CO2 reduction which will be a costly attempt to solve a problem that does not exist and will be considered a world-wide false science joke by 2040.

    2) The proposed complex regulatory process will nearly be impossible to implement in any reasonable fashion. This is an executive plan that could have been prescribed in 10 pages rather than hundreds of pages.
     
  2. Even if reducing CO2 emissions would stop the so-called "climate change" which has paused for the last 16 years, the U.S. only accounts for about 17% of the world's CO2 emissions. So reducing our part by 30% by 2030 would only reduce the world's emissions by roughly 5% in 16 years assuming all else remains constant.

    In other words, it won't do jack squat except raise energy prices and throw yet another monkey wrench into our economy.
     
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Please stop confusing the issue with facts. They have no place here.
     
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Obama can order the "death of coal", but it will be my company which actually kills it.

    (evil laugh) Muahahahaha...
     
  5. So then you think CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas. Interesting.
     
  6. I take some grim satisfaction from the fact that the millenials' economic future is being destroyed by the president they were so desperate to elect.

    The rest of us are left pondering a state of affairs where our own government seems to set out daily to see how much harm it can inflict on the country. I feel like one of those Russians trapped in eastern Ukraine. President Putin, please rescue us.
     
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Their future will be fine. As pointed out by another poster, the poor have never had it so good, with their cellphones and TVs and such. That, in spite of the implementation of thousands of previous environmental regulations.
     
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  9. Interesting polling data via VOX

    ABC/WashPost polls

    69 percent of respondents said they believed global warming was a serious or very serious problem
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    70% of respondents supported the concept of Obama's EPA regulations
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    When it was pointed out that the regulations could cause monthly energy bills to rise, support remained strong
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    Too bad there were no polls regarding: whether dinosaurs were on the ark; whether 70's inflation is going to return despite the employment slack/aging population; why govt run healthcare is more efficient than the private sector; etc...
     
  10. wjk

    wjk

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    #10     Jun 2, 2014