Nowaday, Is there any discretionay trader who trade more than 10 lots

Discussion in 'Trading' started by TripleJs, Dec 9, 2020.

  1. TripleJs

    TripleJs

    Since trading nowaday is done by Algo and automation, any trader still trade discretionary and think they can beat the Algo in a longrun and trade big size? one mistake could wipe away all your profit in daytrade. How can you compete with emotionless machine, world one day will be dominated by machine, so does day trading.
     
  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    first, let's get the definition correct.


    1. market maker ? / heavy scalper / algo trader - they make hundreds or thousands of round turns every day.
    each trade they take a small profit (and small loss).


    2. light scalper / day trader - they make tens of round turns every day.
    each trade they take medium profit ( and medium loss).

    3. swing trader - he makes tens of round turns every week/month.
    each trade he takes big profit ( and big loss).



    category 2 and 3 are not really affected by category 1 people.

    market marker, heavy scalper, algo trader are competitors.
    they fight against each other.
     
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  3. TripleJs

    TripleJs

    how does algo trader not affect 2, algo trader can make program to daytrade, and computers have no emotion and not getting tire, unlike human they errors due to fatigue and other emotional aspects.
     
  4. maxinger

    maxinger

    I day trade various futures.
    I don't bother about those machines / programmers.


    But I watch out for such a dangerous market ;
    when the market moves in
    chaotic
    messy
    untrendy
    choopy
    erratic
    manner, I'd avoid trading such a market.

    Because it would be very difficult to trade such a market.
     
  5. Beerbeen

    Beerbeen

    Trade make communication among buyer and seller and they speed their visibility of product and service in market.
     
  6. traider

    traider

    Yes Navinder Singh the one fo the few humans to have defeated HFT
     
  7. TripleJs

    TripleJs

    that sound like ES in most of the day
     
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  8. cesfx

    cesfx

    Did he do it manually?

    I thought he was using hft algo that he created in his parent's house bedroom...

    I would love to have a coffee with that man.
    :D
     
  9. traider

    traider

    he will be sought after his high profile case. Consulting for hedge funds. I think you might have to wait.
     
  10. Fonz

    Fonz

    Trying to play the algo game with "retail" imitations of their tools is doomed. Everything else is possible.
     
    #10     Dec 10, 2020
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