Non-citizens commit 42% of federal crimes, despite being 7% of population

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Banjo, May 18, 2019.

  1. Banjo

    Banjo

  2. Sure. Let's invite whole SWARM of them bastards into our country.... and pay for their support and upkeep while we're at it!

    :(
     
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  3. "A breakdown of crimes in the report shows about 92 percent of immigration crimes, or about 21,835 cases, involved non-citizens. "

    hahahahahaha

    And one third of US adults have criminal records so the US is the most criminal country on Earth. If you want to count like that.
     
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    newsflash:

    Black criminals commit 100% of black crime.

    more news at 11
     
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  5. The Internet has been flooded recently with reports saying non-citizens commit 42.7% of federal crimes despite being only 7% of the US population:

    https://www.google.com/search?&q=non-citizens+7+federal+AND+(crime+OR+crimes)+AND+(40+OR+42+OR+42.7)

    This is an invalid comparison based on questionable metrics, beginning with the "7%" of US population being "non-citizens". According to many reports, it is based on "the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey" with that reference linked not to a Census Bureau web page but rather to this:

    https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-citizenship-status/

    There it states that the data source is "Kaiser Family Foundation *estimates* based on the Census Bureau's American Community Survey, 2008-2017". And estimates they must be, because the US Census Bureau does NOT (yet) collect data on citizenship status:

    https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/department-of-commerce-v-new-york/

    The closest analog might be data on "foreign born", which they define to include "naturalized U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (such as foreign students), humanitarian migrants (such as refugees and asylees), and unauthorized migrants" - such data NOT including legal status:

    https://www.census.gov/topics/population/foreign-born/about.html

    So much for the "7%". Now let's look at the "42.7%":

    That statistic is drawn from Table 9 (page 52) of the 2018 Annual Report and Sourcebook of Federal Sentencing Statistics:

    https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/...ks/2018/FY18-Annual-Report-and-Sourcebook.pdf

    Of the 69,425 federal crime cases analyzed in this report, the citizenship status of 522 "offenders" was not known. Of the remaining 68,903 cases, 29,445 involved non-citizen offenders, and dividing 29,445 by 68,903 yields 42.7%. So yes, 42.7% of these federal crime cases had non-citizen offenders, but that statistic cannot be used in an apples-to-apples comparison with the 7% estimate (or any other overall population metric) because, as is disclosed on page 202, "[a] single offender may account for more than one case if the offender was involved in more than one sentencing event during the fiscal year". In other words, although a single individual is counted only once in the "population", a single individual may be counted multiple times in this report's "offender" statistics - hence apples and oranges.

    And how serious is the distortion? For "Immigration" offenses, quite serious. Consider, for example that "...in more than 21,000 cases last year, [Border Patrol] agents apprehended border crossers who already had been caught six or more times":

    https://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univisio...oss-border-repeat-offenders/story?id=19244006

    That particular distortion explains not only why 42.7% of "offenders" were non-citizens but also why 54.3% were Hispanic. Furthermore, broad statistical assimilations like these suggest that a hungry Mexican crossing the Rio Grande in search of work is an offense as serious as a cold-blooded murder, which is far from rational.

    So much for the 7% - and the 42.7%:

    "Non-Citizens Commit 42.7% Of Federal Crimes, Despite Being Only 7% Of US Population" - DEBUNKED.

    Download as PDF: https://docdro.id/ZiIpBdy
     
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  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    It's even worse than we thought. 100% of immigrants crossing the border illegally are "criminals"!
     
  7. Wallet

    Wallet

    Well, acknowledging that is a step in the right direction
     
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    If only obstruction of justice was judged the same way....
     
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  9. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    This is correct. The 42% statistic is skewed by immigration offenses. This link provides a better picture of the federal crime rates of non-citizens. Their statistics show that they commit 21.4% of federal crimes if you exclude immigration offenses. They're higher than normal in some areas, and lower than normal in other areas.

    https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116
    Areas where non-citizens account for a much larger share of convictions than their 8.4 percent share of the adult population include:
    • 42.4 percent of kidnapping convictions;
    • 31.5 percent of drug convictions;
    • 22.9 percent of money laundering convictions;
    • 13.4 percent of administration of justice offenses (e.g. witness tampering, obstruction, and contempt);
    • 17.8 percent of economic crimes (e.g. larceny, embezzlement, and fraud);
    • 13 percent of other convictions (e.g. bribery, civil rights, environmental, and prison offenses); and
    • 12.8 percent of auto thefts.
    Areas where non-citizens account for a share of convictions roughly equal to their share of the adult population include:
    • 9.6 percent of assaults;
    • 8.9 percent of homicides; and
    • 7.5 percent of firearm crimes.
    Areas where non-citizens account for a share of convictions lower than their share of the adult population include:
    • 4.1 percent of sex crimes;
    • 3.3 percent of robberies;
    • 4.5 percent of arsons; and
    • 0 percent of burglaries.
     
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    CIS is garbage....they always misrepresent the sources they site.
     
    #10     May 19, 2019