No, No, No. Elizabeth Warren Is Not a Socialist

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  1. ETJ

    ETJ

    No, No, No. Elizabeth Warren Is Not a Socialist


    Wall Street might find it useful to tag her as such, but she advocates free markets and would be better for business and the economy than President Trump.

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    Joe Nocera
    September 30, 2019, 11:30 AM CDT
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    A press release from Elizabeth Warren landed in my inbox last Friday morning. It came not from her presidential campaign but from her Senate office, and it concerned a subject that doesn’t often claim the attention of U.S. senators, much less leading contenders in a presidential race.



    The subject was bond ratings.




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    “Senator Warren to SEC,” read the headline. “Do Your Job. Crack Down on Dangerous Inflated Bond Ratings.” The press release was sparked by recent “troubling reports of inflated bond ratings and the perverse incentives within the bond rating industry.” It pointed out that poorly-rated mortgage-backed securities caused “millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes and savings” during the financial crisis — yet a decade later “ratings agencies are continuing to rubber stamp risky products.”



    The press release linked to the letter Warren had sent to Jay Clayton, the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, and it was a doozy. Three and a half single-spaced pages, heavily footnoted, it offered a detailed analysis of the damage those triple A-rated subprime securities had done to the economy in 2008. And it reminded Clayton that the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform law had established an Office of Credit Ratings within the SEC that was charged with promoting accurate bond ratings. What, Warren asked Clayton, was the SEC doing about this growing problem?



    As it happens, the day before Warren issued her press release, CNBC ran a story saying that big-money Democrats on Wall Street – that is, the people Democratic presidential nominees rely on every four years — were threatening to either sit out the 2020 race, or support Donald Trump, if Warren were the nominee. (Hillary Clinton received more than $64 million from the financial services industry in 2016.)

    One anonymous Wall Street executive (shocker: nobody was willing to speak on the record to CNBC) said that he and his fellow Wall Street Democrats “will not support her. It would be like shutting down their industry.” CNBC linked to a video of Jim Cramer, one of its in-house stars, saying bluntly: “She has to be stopped.”

    And early last week, a strategist with AGF Investments put out a note to clients saying that “investors should be more concerned” about the prospect of a Warren presidency than about any “fallout” from Trump’s phone call to the president of the Ukraine. After all, the strategist, Greg Valliere, told Bloomberg News, the Robert Mueller investigation hadn’t affected markets, so the impeachment inquiry probably wouldn’t either.

    Ah, but Elizabeth Warren — she’d be a disaster for stocks! After all, she wants to force private equity firms to take more responsibility for the workers whose companies they take over; to cancel student debt that is putting college graduates behind the eight-ball; to recreate the Glass-Steagall Act and once again separate investment and commercial banking; and to eliminate the “tricks and traps” that the financial services industry often uses to stick consumers with excessive fees. Oh, and let’s not forget: Warren wants to impose a 2% tax on any household with a net worth over $50 million and a 3% tax on households worth over $1 billion. That’s gotta be a stock market killer. Right?

    I understand that markets are central to Wall Street, but it’s a bit much when it tends to view everything through the prism of stocks and bonds. If World War III were to break out, you half expect Wall Street strategists to react with notes asking “What does it mean for the market?” (Which they would, of course; that’s a fundamental part of their job. I’m simply asking that they take other forces into account as well.)

    In this case, what the anti-Warren Democrats are really saying is that they would prefer a president who has divided and destabilized the country — and whose phone call to Ukraine’s president was so far outside the bounds that he is likely to be impeached — than a president who would prevent them from gouging customers and taxing some of their wealth. That’s a pretty sorry commentary.

    Wall Street often lumps Warren together with Senator Bernie Sanders as a “socialist.” She is nothing of the sort. As she consistently says, “I believe in markets.” She just wants them to work better. Her stance towards Wall Street reminds me of Franklin Roosevelt’s, who came into office in 1933, with banks failing and the country struggling through the Depression. By the time he died in 1945, bank customers had federal deposit insurance, commercial banks and investment banks had been separated, and the Securities and Exchange Commission had been created to regulate the markets. These three measures did a great deal to restore Americans’ faith in the nation’s financial system. But of course Wall Street hated Roosevelt too.

    (Warren’s reaction to her Wall Street critics also echoes Roosevelt’s. In a speech he made in 1936, referring to his critics in the financial industry, Roosevelt said, “They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred.” After Cramer made his “She’s gotta be stopped” comment, Warren treated it like a campaign ad, posting the video on Twitter and writing, “I’m Elizabeth Warren and I approve this message.”)

    Big corporate tax cuts notwithstanding, Trump has been no friend to business. Think about it: He has placed pointless tariffs on goods from countries we’ve had good trading relationships with for decades. He has started a counterproductive trade war with China. His anti-immigration policy hurts everything from tech companies to poultry farms. He has consistently issued threats against Amazon.com because its chief executive, Jeff Bezos, owns The Washington Post. He has turned the Justice Department’s antitrust division into a weapon that rewards his friends and attacks his enemies. Even his deregulatory efforts can be harmful. Oil companies don’t want looser methane rules, and car companies don’t want lower gas emissions regulations — both of which the Trump administration has proposed.

    According to Bloomberg News, Jeffrey Gundlach, the billionaire bond guru, predicts the chances of a recession in 2020 have risen to 75%. Suppose there is a recession next year. Do you trust Trump and his economic team to take the right steps to soften the economic blow it will deal the country? I certainly don’t.

    But Elizabeth Warren? Does anyone doubt that she will be surrounded with economists who know what they are doing, as opposed to, say, Peter Navarro, who has helped the White House bungle its trade policy with China. Yes, they will be “progressive” economists in the Joe Stiglitz mold, but that also means they will care more about the effects of a recession on the middle class than on Wall Street bankers.

    It’s true that many of the proposals Warren has put forward, if passed into law, would restrict what bankers can do to generate profits. They would also make them a little less rich. But those same proposals could well restore Americans faith in the financial industry — faith that has been largely absent since the financial crisis. And a 3% billionaire’s tax would allow people to see that someone in government is finally doing something to mitigate income inequality.

    Jamie Dimon, the chief executive of JP Morgan Chase & Co., once said of Warren, “I don’t know that she fully understands the global banking system.” He got it exactly backwards. The reason Wall Street fears her is that she understands it all too well.

    That may not offer much comfort for Wall Street executives — including those Democrats who say they prefer Trump. But it ought to be great comfort to the rest of us.
     
  2. easymon1

    easymon1

    She's not Native American either, but didn't stop her from posting that on her college app. lol
    She's a professional politician.
     
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  3. KeLo

    KeLo

    Who wrote the OP's article: Joe Nocera.

    Who is Joe Nocera?

    In an August 2011 column on the US debt ceiling crisis, Nocera compared "Tea Party Republicans" with terrorists, and wrote that they "have waged jihad on the American people" and suggested that they "can put aside their suicide vests".[30] These choice of words were criticized by a number of media outlets, including Jonah Goldberg of the National Review, Jennifer Rubin of The Washington Post, and Jason Suderman of Reason magazine, along with then White House press secretaryJay Carney.[31][32][33][34] In a follow-up column, Nocera writes "[what] most surprised me is how darned liberal I sound sometimes." He then apologized.

    [note: I did not add the red - just copied and pasted]
     
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    She is, the DNA proved that.

    So her great whatever might have been just a grandchild of a native man or woman, very likely he would have looked and been treated as full blown native at the time.

    It happens, one of my cousins in Louisiana has four kids and one has pronounced native features when one sister is blonde. Goes back to someone on her dad's side back in the late 1700s.

    And Warren is absolutely correct in the the best time for Americans, the 'golden age' was when capitalism was sensibly regulated.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2019
  5. traderob

    traderob

    elizabeth_warren_liawatha_11.jpg
     
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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Look little kid, you can smear and lie all you want, facts are facts.

    Warren is 100% part native American.
     
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Remind us all Tradebob, when was Trump's vaunted "Great" time for American we are making again?

    Was it perhaps the time when after an appalling cycle of boom and bust every 17 years (from memory) certain banking regulations made it very stable until the 1980s when..

    See the manufacturing numbers today? Worst in ten years.

    Expecting a double from the initial drop on the indices and then I'll scratch my balls.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2019
  8. Attached below is a link to a US manufacturing output chart.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.pdf?hires=1&type=application/pdf&bgcolor=#e1e9f0&chart_type=line&drp=0&fo=open sans&graph_bgcolor=#ffffff&height=450&mode=fred&recession_bars=on&txtcolor=#444444&ts=12&tts=12&width=968&nt=0&thu=0&trc=0&show_legend=yes&show_axis_titles=yes&show_tooltip=yes&id=OUTMS&scale=left&cosd=1987-01-01&coed=2019-04-01&line_color=#4572a7&link_values=false&line_style=solid&mark_type=none&mw=3&lw=2&ost=-99999&oet=99999&mma=0&fml=a&fq=Quarterly&fam=avg&fgst=lin&fgsnd=2009-06-01&line_index=1&transformation=lin&vintage_date=2019-10-01&revision_date=2019-10-01&nd=1987-01-01
     
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

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    #10     Oct 1, 2019