New York trying to get Manafort to talk

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Jun 5, 2019.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ala...-to-rikers-prepare-to-be-shocked-and-outraged

    Alan Dershowitz: Why is Paul Manafort off to Rikers? Prepare to be shocked (and outraged)

    By Alan Dershowitz | Fox News
    4-5 minutes

    The decision to move Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman who was sentenced earlier this year to nearly seven years in prison in connection with two federal cases, from the decent federal prison to which he was sentenced to solitary confinement to the dangerous hell hole that is New York City’s Rikers Island seems abusive and possibly illegal.

    I know Rikers well having spent time there visiting numerous defendants accused of murder and other violent crimes. It is a terrible place that no one should ever be sent to.

    It should be shut down. It is so bad that defendants often plead guilty, even if they have defensible cases, simply to move to a safer and better prison.

    Why then was Manafort moved there? He has already been indicted on multiple state charges for which he cannot, if convicted, be pardoned by President Trump. His state trial is not imminent.

    He should be allowed to await that trial in the federal facility to which he was sentenced. He could then be transferred to New York on the eve of his state trial.

    The New York authorities appear to acknowledge that he would be unsafe at Rikers, presumably because of his high profile connections to Trump. That is why he will be held in solitary confinement for his own good. But his own good would better be served by leaving him where has already spent time in federal confinement.

    Whatever the reason for the transfer, it seems like the selective application of the law for partisan purposes. The tactic of squeezing a potential witness by making his imprisonment unbearably harsh is generally reserved for mafioso, terrorists and other violent criminals who may have evidence against their bosses.

    New York District Attorney Cyrus Vance, a decent man, has justified his transfer by invoking the cliché that no one is above the law. But what does that have to do with this decision?

    In my experience, defendants serving time in federal prisons for federal crimes who are then indicted for state crimes are not usually transferred to Rikers until the eve of their state trials.

    Manafort is being treated differently and more harshly because of his past connections to President Trump and the fear that Trump will exercise his constitutional authority to pardon Manafort.

    If that is the reason he is being transferred, it makes no sense. Manafort is already under state indictment. If Trump were to pardon him, he could be immediately arrested and brought to New York, where he would have the right to seek release on bail for the non-violent New York crime of which he is presumed innocent.

    It certainly appears as if New York is punishing Manafort for his association with Trump.

    Judge T.S. Ellis, who presided over Manafort’s first trial, understood that he was not the real object of the special prosecutor. He was being charged in order to get him to “sing” against the real object of the investigation: namely resident Trump.

    Judge Ellis also pointed out the dangers of putting such pressure on a potential witness: sometimes they not only sing, they also “compose.”

    Perhaps that is the real reason behind the decision to transfer Manafort: the DA hopes that he might be motivated to provide evidence of state crimes for which Trump could be charged.

    The law is unclear as to whether a sitting president can be indicted and /or tried for a state, as distinguished from a federal, crime. So when Vance says that no one is above the law, he may be referring to Trump rather than Manafort.

    Whatever the reason for the transfer, it seems like the selective application of the law for partisan purposes. The tactic of squeezing a potential witness by making his imprisonment unbearably harsh is generally reserved for mafioso, terrorists and other violent criminals who may have evidence against their bosses.

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    It is entirely inappropriate in the political context. It is yet another example of the weaponization of the criminal process for partisan advantage.

    All civil libertarians, regardless of party affiliation, should be outraged at this abuse. It sets a dangerous precedent that could be used by overzealous prosecutors against any American.
     
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    The New York DA is not bound by DOJ memos.Good job Mr DA,stay on him:thumbsup:
     
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    7 year sentence from Mueller,facing years in state prison,50 million in assets seized.Manafort definitely got the worst of this.
     
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    While Trump wouldn't be taken into custody while in office he could be indicted,go to trial without him present,found guilty,become a convicted felon,and sentenced while in office and taken into custody in Jan 2021.That would be so cool:)
     
  5. These are police state tactics. Carryover from the Mueller fiasco. Trump absolutely must respond in kind by aggressively prosecuting big foot democrats, eg Soros. Do it in red states where they will get a MAGA jury.
     
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Lol!!!
     
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    BTW,Barr cant save Trump from Vance and the New York AG who is also on Trumps ass

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  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    Solitary confinement is proven to be psychologically damaging. Hopefully this brings more light to this subject and we ban it except for under extreme circumstances.

    Remember the old adage that you can judge the morality of a nation by its treatment of its prisoners.
     
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Even AOC agrees with you.Solitary is cruel but Manafort could have avoided all this by just being truthful.


    https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-paul-manafort-solitary?amp=1

    ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ DEFENDS PAUL MANAFORT FROM BEING SENT TO RIKERS ISLAND
    By Benjamin Fearnow On 6/05/19 at 12:16 PM EDT

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said former Trump campaign manager Paul J. Manafort should be released alongside all other prisoners currently in solitary confinement at New York's Rikers Island.

    The New York Democratic congresswoman who has frequently touted criminal justice reform measures took to Twitter Wednesday demanding Manafort be released from solitary confinement. He was convicted last year on federal bank fraud, tax and conspiracy charges and has been serving a seven-and-a-half year sentence in Pennsylvania. But it's widely believed that, fearing a federal Trump pardon, the Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., obtained an indictment of Manafort on state mortgage fraud charges to guarantee he would still face prison time.