New strategy - buy to write instead of the wheel.

Discussion in 'Options' started by wxytrader, Oct 10, 2024.

  1. All of my positions are locked and loaded, so I am just looking for supplemental income on a weekly basis with my remaining cash.

    APLD
    Buy 1000 shares @ market
    Sell covered call atm

    $7000
    atm call premium is .82 - 1.07 0 dte
    Break even will be around $6, so being a 0 dte I could place the stop there and basically have zero risk on the trade. :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2024
  2. S2007S

    S2007S

    The wheel is too hyped up, every youtuber swears by it. It works until it doesn't, once the stock falls outside your window of opportunity the wheel losses all its power and becomes a dud.
     
  3. It's not 0DTE, first expiration is 11 oct..
     
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  4. Yeah all the risk and none of the rewards! It can be ok but yes you can get trapped and have to wait it out with the wheel. I mean the same can happen with a call write, so might as well just skip the selling puts part. :)


    This guy gets it...I knew I couldn't be the only one to think of this. :)


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  5. cesfx

    cesfx

    So... if I understand correctly, the reddit degen is making 1 while risking up to 449, with a breakeven at -1.1% of QQQ

    Genius.
     
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  6. Another problem with the wheel is typically you want to be selling puts in a high IV environment, but you might get assigned and then get stuck holding the shares in a low IV environment depending what the catalyst was...it's better to buy-write the calls and get paid, and unload the shares.
     
  7. Yeah not the actual trade, just the concept.
     
  8. Well that was terrible....I set a market order and got filled at $8.01 right before it dumped lol...so I moved the expiry out to NOV8 for a monthly income target.

    Symbol APLD $8.01
    Shares 1000
    Cost $8,010.00
    Call strike 9
    Contracts 10
    Premium 0.6
    Premium $600.00
    Cost basis $7.41
    Proceeds from sale $9,000.00
    Profits $1,590.00

    This is another perfect example of not letting positions get stopped out. I could have taken a $1200 loss 5 minutes after the trade, but instead have turned that into a $600 realized gain, and a potential $990 future gain. :)
     
  9. taowave

    taowave

    I'll bite..If you love your underwater position, why not double down at much better prices??

    And why not sell the put instead of leggings the buy write???
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2024
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  10. taowave

    taowave

    What on earth are you talking about??


     
    #10     Oct 11, 2024