Need help contructing a position

Discussion in 'Options' started by robert111, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. Hi, is there a way to create a position that acts like being long 100 shares, but for only 10 points in either direction, then stops gaining or losing? I wanted options that are about a year out.

    I know I can create a spread that does this at expiration by buying a call vertical, and selling a put vertical, but with 1 year options, if the price moves in the short term, there is little change in the spread value. I wanted something that has 100 delta in the short term, but at 1 year later has a capped gain or loss of 10 points. Is this possible with any method or trading product?

    Thanks
     
  2. Jones75

    Jones75

    A 10 point gyration on a year out delta neutral spread? …The bid/ask spread alone is going to cripple the whole thing…:banghead:…IMO
     
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  3. CyJackX

    CyJackX

    Why not just go long 100 shares and collar it?
     
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  4. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Another (undoubtedly unhelpful) thought:
    There are only 4 ways to do options -- a 2x2 square of long and short, against puts and calls.
    Seriously. Anything beyond that theme is variation. (It's great music, but still...)

    DRAW THE PROFIT/RISK GRAPHS for each, and then, like a jigsaw, put together what you wish to do.

    DO NOT make this trade without knowing ahead of time *exactly* what happens, now, and later, should it go up, should it go down, should it camp out.

    I don't mean to sound pedantic, but ...... your question is a mite scary. Like, "If I go out playing in traffic, but look to my left the whole time, will I be okay?" Sure, kid; knock yourself out.
     
  5. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Not with listed options. What would come close is that 10 point spread going out 1 year, but buying more of them. eg, if the calls spread has a 50 delta, buy twice as many. That way if you want a delta of 100 shares, buy 2 spreads.