Mueller Impanels Grand Jury in Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    According to the Wall Street Journal, Robert Mueller has now impaneled a grand jury in the investigation, suggesting that the probe is now entering a new phase.

    The grand jury, which began its work in recent weeks, is a sign that Mr. Mueller’s inquiry is ramping up and that it will likely continue for months. Mr. Mueller is investigating Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin as part of that effort.

    President Donald Trump’s outside counsel for the Russia investigation, Ty Cobb, told the WSJ that he wasn’t aware that Mueller was convening a grand jury.

    Prior to this grand jury being impaneled, federal investigators were using at least one other grand jury in its criminal investigation of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-mueller-idUSKBN1AJ2RA
     
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  2. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    They always impanel a Grand Jury for nothingburgers, right?
     
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

  4. jem

    jem

    in a way that is confirmation they don't really have anything of substance on trump. otherwise would we not have seen leaks about that grand jury area of inquiry?

    unless this is some sort of really sophisticated chess move... or unless Jr. asked them to do more spying... this is still a "nothingburger" with respect to the President.

     
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  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Subpoenas only happen to people who do GOOD and LEGAL things.
     
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  6. Max E.

    Max E.


    Like Hillary?
     
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    When was she issued grand jury subpoenas? Hell, the Benghazi committee issued a supoena nearly a year after the emails were ordered to be deleted.
     
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    What is a grand jury?
    A grand jury is a body of citizens who are legally empowered to investigate potential criminal conduct. At the federal level (and in many states) prosecutors use grand juries to determine whether an individual should be indicted for crimes. In other words, a grand jury is impaneled to determine whether the state can formally accuse someone of a crime/many crimes. Grand jurors can also compel witnesses to appear before them and can compel the production of documents.

    Prosecutors sometimes use grand juries to issue subpoenas on people or entities to produce testimony or documents. This essentially compels the subpoenaed party to produce certain evidence, or be held in contempt.

    Using a grand jury to obtain documents or testimony has some advantage over law enforcement, since law enforcement needs a warrant to carry out a search and seizure. Under certain circumstances witnesses who are compelled to testify may be able to invoke their Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. However, they will not be able to discuss this with their defense counsel during the proceeding.

    Grand jurors do not decide whether someone is guilty or not guilty. That will be decided at a later time, in front of a different jury at trial. Grand jurors also do not interact with a judge, other than being sworn in.

    How many people serve on a grand jury?
    The number can differ from district and states. Typically, 16-23 people are selected to serve as jurors. Of those, usually 16 or so are needed to form a quorum, which is the minimum number to decide whether to vote on an indictment. Generally, a least 12 jurors need to vote to bring an indictment. That said, this can vary from place to place.

    How are grand juries typically selected?
    Potential jurors are selected through a summons in the mail, which compels them to appear before the court. Potential jurors usually have the option of serving of deferring. Some may be excused from serving for hardship, such as lost wages that could cause homelessness or a medical condition.

    How long is grand jury service?
    Typically, service on a grand jury lasts 5 weeks. However, in some instances, a grand jury may be compelled to serve for months at a time.

    What are a juror's obligations?
    The grand jury process is very secret. One reason it is secret is to protect witnesses from retribution or harm before a criminal is apprehended. In that vein, grand jurors are instructed to keep the proceedings absolutely secret. They are compelled to not discuss the case or evidence with anyone, other than with other jurors during deliberations.

    Because the process is secret, the accused does not have a right to present evidence of his or her defense, or even be informed of the proceedings. No defense attorney is present at the proceedings.

    How does a grand jury decide whether to bring an indictment?
    Typically, the prosecutors present evidence. This can be witness testimony, documents, or other tangible evidence. The jurors sit and take notes about the evidence. Sometimes, this process takes weeks or months. Once the jurors hear the evidence, they are read the proposed charges. They then deliberate among themselves as to whether there is enough evidence for an indictment.

    A grand jury is instructed to return an indictment if the probable cause standard has been met. Probable cause occurs when there allegations are "supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true."

    Probable cause is considered the lowest legal burden in the US justice system.
     
  9. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    "I'm now convinced that we will be facing the very real possibility of a constitutional crisis with many dimensions and deleterious consequences should Secretary Clinton win the election," Trump quoted from an op-ed by Schoen, hastily adding that he didn't think a Clinton victory would happen...

    "She would be under protracted criminal investigation and probably a criminal trial, I would say. So we'd have a criminal trial of a sitting president," he said.

    He warned that Russian President Vladimir Putin and other world leaders would "sit back and they would laugh and they would smile" during a years-long investigation. In the meantime, he predicted, manufacturing in the country would further decline and other problems would go unaddressed.

    Donald Trump warns of a 'constitutional crisis' if Hillary Clinton wins
     
  10. Of course they are working with a grand jury. You have to do that in any real and serious investigation. In other words, that is why they did not do it with Hillary. No one in their right frigging mind thinks that Meuller is going to investigate Trump in the same way that Comey did not investigate Hillary. One investigation was designed to look the other way and the other is designed to do a witch-hunt on everything. You just keep going until you find something.

    Hillary was investigated by the Federal Bureau of Matters.
    See if you can spot the problem there.
     
    #10     Aug 3, 2017