MOC on NYSE did not execute

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by Maverick2608, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. The time is 16:29 and it still has not been executed. Does anyone know what the reason could be. I use IB.

    Thank you.
     
  2. The stock traded over 5 million shares in regular trading.
     
  3. I see now that there is a short sale restriction on, so I guess it must have ended on a down tick. I thought short sale restrictions did not include auctions, but I guess it does. Can anyone confirm that. Thank you.
     
  4. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    You should send a message to IB with the order information for the most accurate reason. We would only be guessing.
     
  5. luisHK

    luisHK

    Why would it execute by 16.29 ?
    I use MOC orders daily with IB, usually through the smart route, and they start executing at 4.30pm, it can take over 5mns to see the orders executing. I've seen orders not executing btw, although very seldom if the system has accepted the order - if trying late in the day, regulary orders get rejected because of order imbalance.
     
  6. i960

    i960

    You're not allowed to short when the Nasdaq is above 5000. New SEC rule.
     
  7. hmm, isn't asking your broker for a reason an order did not execute one of the worst ideas, at least until you at least fully understand the mechanics of the submitted order and how such order gets filled? It is like asking a used car dealer whether he is sure that the car will last another 2 years before buying. What answer do you expect?


     
  8. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    His broker will be able to follow the order and give him a direct response. We don't have enough information to provide an informed response. If you don't trust your broker to respond with an honest answer, you should find another broker.
     
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  9. NYSE has clear definitions when MOCs get rejected and when not. This is not a guessing game, if OP submitted the order after 3:45pm then the following applies:

    (b) Order Entry After 3:45 p.m.

    (i) After the publication of a Mandatory MOC/LOC Imbalance Publication pursuant to paragraph (5) below, Exchange systems will only accept MOC and LOC orders that offset the published imbalance and will reject MOC and LOC orders that do not offset the published imbalance (i.e, on the same side of a Mandatory MOC/LOC Imbalance Publication). Specifically, if the Mandatory MOC/LOC Imbalance Publication shows an excess of sell interest over buy interest, only MOC and LOC orders to buy will be accepted; if the Mandatory MOC/LOC Imbalance Publication show an excess of buy interest over sell interest, only MOC and LOC orders to sell will be accepted.

    http://nyserules.nyse.com/nyse/rules/nyse-rules/chp_1_3/chp_1_3_8/chp_1_3_8_13/default.asp


     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2015
  10. I somewhat disagree. No matter you trust your doctor or not, you want to inform yourself before/after and potentially get second opinions. Trust is good, verification is better. Same with a broker, if there is a potential dispute then it would be reckless to approach the broker without knowing the facts that can be gleaned from understanding how MOCs work, particularly at the specific exchange.



     
    #10     Apr 23, 2015