Micros are winning in volumes now!

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Overnight, Apr 12, 2020.

  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    Who woulda' thunk it.

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    Check that shit out.

    ES/MES is close, YM/MYM is like OK, but NQ/MNQ is like WTF! A sign of more retail activity, or more of that "arbitrage" people speak of? In any event, fascinating.

    NOBODY saw that coming.
     
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  2. trader99

    trader99

    I love MNQs. :)
     
  3. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    The CME released a lot of micros but non succeeed like the Stock Index Micros.
     
  4. southall

    southall

    At 1/10th the notional, its not hard for the micros to beat the minis.

    When volaility dies back down lots will be back to minis, as they are cheaper to trade.

    But it was a well timed move by the CME.

    They are a ideal instrument to use when volatility jumps x10 and you only have a small account.
     
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  5. Volatility is the reason as stated above. Especially for lower NAV players
     
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    So you are saying that the CME knew that the same day they implemented the Micros, that Trump was going to drop the bomb on China about tariffs, which started a new vola run?

    I do not think so.
     
  7. I'm not surprised. Micros are easier to leg in/out with multiple contracts, exchange fees are lower .... what's not to like?
     
  8. southall

    southall


    When is that table data from?

    What is the data for Friday like, IB is showing 500K for NQ, and about 650K to MNQ?
     
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    It was from like 2 hours ago, when I logged off after the Sunday open. Want me to show you a refreshed version? I'll have to reconnect the trading machine for that.
     
  10. southall

    southall

    The mini had become too notionally expensive. $170,000 per ES.

    Was obvious if there was another crisis like 2008 and vola jumped x5 or x10 they would be way too unwieldy for smaller accounts.

    Rather than split them like ICE did with Russell futures, CME added micros instead.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2020
    #10     Apr 12, 2020