As I said dozens of times throughout the last year.... and GWBe-lying countered with his usual lies and bullshit... there are few if any documented cases of transmission of Covid outdoors... they word it a bit more left... but it is the same fact. By David Leonhardt Good morning. We’re looking at two Covid questions people may have heading into summer. The boardwalk in Long Beach, N.Y., this week.Johnny Milano for The New York Times ‘Based on science’ Should you still be wearing a mask outdoors? And how should you reorient your family’s life once the adults have been vaccinated but the children have not yet been? Those are two Covid-19 questions on many people’s minds, and The Times has just published two stories that address them, based on interviews with experts. A common theme is that it’s OK to start making some changes to your behavior and loosening up in careful ways — or at least to begin thinking about it. A mask outdoors? On the issue of outdoor mask wearing, it helps to review a basic fact: There are few if any documented cases of brief outdoor interactions leading to Covid transmission. If you’re passing other people on a sidewalk or sitting near them on a park bench, the exposure of exhaled particles appears to be too small to lead to infection. “Viral particles quickly disperse in outdoor air, and the risk of inhaling aerosolized virus from a jogger or passers-by are negligible,” my colleague Tara Parker-Pope writes, citing an interview she did with Linsey Marr of Virginia Tech. As Dr. Muge Cevik, an infectious-disease expert at the University of St. Andrews, says, outdoors is “not where the infection and transmission occurs.” Still, why not try to eliminate even a minuscule potential risk and tell people to wear a mask at all times? Because that’s not an effective way to reduce overall risk. “I think the guidelines should be based on science and practicality,” Marr said. “People only have so much bandwidth to think about precautions.” There are still important precautions to take, ones that are much more based in science than universal mask wearing. Unvaccinated people should wear masks when in close conversation with people outside their family — even outdoors — and should almost always wear a mask when indoors and not at home. Vaccinated people should continue to wear a mask in many indoor situations, to help contribute to a culture of mask wearing. It’s the decent thing to do when more than half of Americans still are not vaccinated.
And once again.... the article discusses "brief outdoor interactions leading to Covid transmission." The article is not about outdoor crowds without masks where social distancing is not possible. Such as protests, concerts, crowded beaches, etc. While to probability of outdoor spread is less than indoor spread (by a factor of 10X to 20x) in documented studies -- there are still plenty of documented cases of outdoor spread in crowds. Including all the instances of outdoor spread in the Carolinas at protests -- which I have previously provided the health warnings for issued by cities urging all the protestors to be tested. I will note that when I go for an outdoor walk on the trails in my neighborhood I do not wear a mask. Nor do any others. We are all socially distanced and at most will pass somebody by briefly. Masks for socially distanced activities have never been required (nor even requested in state guidelines) in North Carolina and most other states. However masks are required at outdoor events where you are not socially distanced. If I want to a local concert outdoors (which are currently back in many parks / arenas in our state) then I would wear a mask (and the facility would require it).
gwb is correct. Several variables in play here. Alberta is at +10% positivity right now, so if I could not distance outside, and had to linger in a crowd, my mask would be outta my back pocket and onto my face.
and once again... you have not substantiated any of your bullshit on outdoor spread... whether it be in crowds or anywhere else. you were even warning about the spreads at lake of the ozarks and the protests.... But... lets review... how wrong you were on outdoor spread. You and your team were the ultimate douchebags blaming the spread on trumpers and conservatives for not wearing masks outdoors.... when you had no data to prove that in any significant way. Then, as I hammered you on your stupidity... you have adjusted to your new unsubstantiated bullshit... and just because there is some spread at events... does not mean it happened outdoors. It could have been in the hotels or the travel to the event. not once have you documented an actual case of outdoor spread. you post article after article of models and meta shit... and no actual statistically useful spread. (I said the case most were relying on was a neighbor in China over a year ago.)
I have provided many papers documenting outdoor spread. Go read them and Google for others. I have provided many papers & studies showing mask mandates and wearing are effective. Go read them and Google for others. Stop promoting complete COVID-denier bullshiat which undermines out nation's response to COVID. At this point your continual nonsense -- which is easily debunked -- is shameful.
I have read you studies again just a few days ago. you have not documented any statistically significant spread... you have not even provided one case of outdoor spread. You are a lying moron from a clown family. even the New York Times just told you its time to stop with your bullshit about masking outdoors. Notice they could not even say there was a minuscule risk because the risk is so low they cant even quantify it. "Still, why not try to eliminate even a minuscule potential risk and tell people to wear a mask at all times? Because that’s not an effective way to reduce overall risk. “I think the guidelines should be based on science and practicality,” Marr said. “People only have so much bandwidth to think about precautions.”
you are a lying anti science, anti data - fear mongering douchebag. The New York Times tells you to stop with your bullshit.
GWB has no science background so he simply finds the data that fits his narrative and he extrapolates. Very pro mask - when all the science pre 2020 showed masks do little to nothing to stop respiratory viruses. Very pro lockdown - never been done in human recorded history ... locking down the healthy to hide from a virus. Very pro government totalitarianism. Which is weird because he appears to be Libertarian in thought. When it comes to COVID, GWB is ET’s Neil Ferguson. Wrong wrong wrong panic porn pusher. Tell us why 200,000 didn’t die in Sweden?
Using science and data... how would you know GWB is correct? Very serious question... If there is no contact tracing showing people catch covid outdoors in statistically measurable ways. if even the New York Times tells you the risk is miniscule.... and therefore wear a mask outdoors is unnecessary... why do you say gwb is correct? He is not obviously not capable of providing scientific reasoning reasoning and data on this subject... which is clear from his posting.. but you are... so bring the data. real data... not model bullshit.