Many young people shouldn’t save for retirement, says research based on a Nobel Prize–winning theory

Discussion in 'Economics' started by ph1l, Oct 6, 2022.

  1. ph1l

    ph1l

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/m...d-on-a-nobel-prize-winning-theory-11664562570
    This sounds something like my wife's plan for my retirement:
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    I solved the issue by almost dying.:)

    In some ways, I agree with the article. Consistently living below my means through my working time let me retire early.
     
  2. Many/all young people want to either get rich becoming a Social Media star personality....and/or Become rich trading the market.
    No one wants to work, save, live normal, go to school, get a job.
     
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  3. Debt is future spending that has already been done.
    With $31Trillion national debt, young folks are just going to have to do without a lot of stuff.
    But I assume its mostly young people who voted in the current
    crop.of grifters, fakes and frauds now in national office.
    My mother was a product of the Great Depression.
    I learned years ago the hollowness of want.
    And the discipline of not getting instant gratification.
    Sometimes it is just better to want things, without ever having them.

    Facebook, my ass. And Bill.Gates can stick it where the sun don't shine.
    And now, its their (young people) problem, not mine.
    Rant over.
     
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  4. savoir

    savoir

    I found out about Modigliani over 20 years ago from Jack Hershey. To say the least, his life-cycle hypothesis was enlightening.

    I think most young people approach making money incorrectly. I know I did. It is difficult to escape the influence of one’s heritage and upbringing.

    Most any lifestyle is easily supported in the present system. But usually not by conventional means (job, salary, save, etc.). Making an excess amount and giving some or most of it away is a good idea.
     
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  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    So you are immediately going to trash the PC or smart phone used to post this after clicking send one last time. Cut the cable. No more water and electricity. Sell your your auto/truck or suv and move into a cardboard box under a freeway ramp. Right? Oh wait, make that a former decommissioned ICBM bunker. :)
     
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    Sounds to me you are living with a lot of regret. And it going to only grow with time.
     
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  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    You must not make an excess amount.

    I was in the retail business, where a few of my locations had lotto machines. It was amazing how many lotto customers were so generous with ... how if they won they would give X% to family, friends and charity. Human nature what it is I seriously doubt many would follow through if it ever happened. Same way politicians are always willing to spend taxpayers money on things they deem appropriate. It's not their money.

    Or IOW if you don't have it, it is easy to say what you would do if you did have it.
     
  8. Nobert

    Nobert

    Reading such articles for enterteinment.
     
  9. M.W.

    M.W.

    Makes little to no sense to me. The article conflates several issues. First, by not saving one does not only not reap the power of compounding yield but also forgoes the long term upward drift in equities. But that has nothing to do with specific spending habits. It's true that a lot of folks overspend and take on debt. It is Always better to avoid debt whenever possible and pay off investments rather than save first. With healthy spending habits that are proportionate to one's income there are plenty opportunities to save. This can in the initial life stage be in the form of saving for property in order to lower monthly spending for things like rent or leases. But right after it makes a ton of sense to invest in equities long term. The article seems to confuse and mix up several issues...

     
  10. savoir

    savoir

    Don’t be jelly. Lots of money to be made in these times. Go make some.

    The topic is saving money. Why bother? Pick a lifestyle and make an amount in excess of what is needed to support that lifestyle. You won’t get there thinking conventionally; you will have to do better than buying lotto tickets. You will know you are there when you can give freely.

    I know the idea of giving freely is a foreign idea to you. Outside of this forum, I do not associate with people with your poor outlook so this is a place of learning for me too.

    Giving money is easy. Giving my time is not. When I do give my time, it usually is unknown to the people who benefit how much it is costing me to do so. Time is the only currency in life. People who only strive for money think money is life’s currency.

    I know my posts are unbelievable to you. Believe what you need to in order to cope with your situation. Don’t let my posts disturb you.
     
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