Mandatory Vaccination? Something to think about

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Wallet, Sep 5, 2020.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    sounds like the problem is lack of herd immunity from lack of vaccination

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-...-spreads-in-africa-after-defeat-of-wild-virus
    Vaccine-derived polio spreads in Africa after defeat of wild virus
    Fresh cases of disease linked to oral vaccine seen in Sudan, following outbreak in Chad

    A new polio outbreak in Sudan has been linked to the oral polio vaccine that uses a weakened form of the virus.

    News of the outbreak comes a week after the World Health Organization (WHO) announced that wild polio had been eradicated in Africa.

    The WHO linked the cases to a strain of the virus that had been noted circulating in Chad last year and warned that the risk of spread to other parts of the Horn of Africa was high.

    In a statement on the new cases, the WHO said two children in Sudan, one from South Darfur state and the other from Gadarif state, close to the border with Ethiopia and Eritrea, were paralysed in March and April. Both had been recently vaccinated against polio.

    The WHO said initial outbreak investigations showed the cases were linked to a continuing vaccine-derived outbreak in Chad that was first detected last year and is now spreading in Chad and Cameroon.

    While so-called vaccine-derived polio is a known risk, the emergence of these cases so soon after the announced eradication of wild polio in Africa is a setback.

    At issue is the fact that the oral polio vaccine – preferred in some places because of its ease of delivery and the lack of need for sterile syringes – uses an attenuated or weakened version of polio.

    When a child receives the oral vaccine, the weakened virus replicates in the intestine, encouraging the production of antibodies, and can be present in excreta. In an area where there are high enough levels of immunity in the population, this usually does not present a problem, even if sanitation is poor.

    But in areas where there is both poor sanitation and a lack of general immunisation the virus can survive and circulate for months, mutating over time until it poses the same risk of paralysis-causing disease as wild polio.

    Use of the oral polio vaccine was discontinued in the UK in 2004 and the US in 2000, and the UN agency advises that the use of the oral vaccine should be discontinued after polio is judged to be eradicated because of the risk of vaccine-derived outbreaks.

    Genetic sequencing of the virus involved in the Sudan cases confirmed that they were linked to the outbreak in Chad.

    The WHO warned on Monday that the risk of further spread of vaccine-derived polio across central Africa and the Horn of Africa was high, noting the large-scale population movements in the region.

    Amid the coronavirus pandemic, many major vaccination campaigns needed to stamp out polio have been disrupted across Africa and elsewhere, leaving millions of children vulnerable to infection.

    In April, the WHO and its partners reluctantly recommended a temporary halt to mass polio immunisation campaigns, recognising the move could lead to a resurgence of the disease.

    In May, they reported that 46 campaigns to vaccinate children against polio had been suspended in 38 countries, mostly in Africa, because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Some of the campaigns have recently been restarted, but health workers need to vaccinate more than 90% of children in their efforts to eradicate the paralytic disease.

    Health officials had initially aimed to wipe out polio by 2000, a deadline repeatedly pushed back and missed.


    Wild polio remains endemic in Afghanistan and Pakistan; both countries are also struggling to contain outbreaks of vaccine-derived polio.
     
  3. It obviously is going to be hard enough as it is to get the general population to take a vaccine but the fact that some of these vaccines are being developed on a platform of aborted fetal cells or their lineage will also be a factor that will not help. AT ALL. You might get that to fly in some secular lefty country like New Zealand or dump it on to the Africans - as WHO likes to do- or something but not in the U.S.

    Some of those polio vaccines are fetal tissue derived as well. And some are not. Disclosure and scrutiny are needed though.


    https://mercatornet.com/morally-speaking-not-all-covid-19-vaccines-will-be-equal/65390/

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...-for-switching-to-ethical-polio-vaccine-78224
     
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  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Right wingers are all over the story, and not a single inbred has actually read the article? It’s literally less than a few dozen known cases in areas that were drowning in Polio a few years ago.
     
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  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Takes Wallet too long with moving his finger under the text and speaking the words with his mouth.
     
  6. Wallet

    Wallet

    Bunch of knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, inbred liberals. The fact that a mutated form of polio, caused by the vaccination now starting to emerge is the problem.

    WHO risk assessment
    WHO assesses the risk of further international spread of cVDPV2 across central Africa and the Horn of Africa to be high. With large-scale population movements with other areas of central Africa and the Horn of Africa. A more thorough region-wide risk assessment is being conducted by the polio program. Across the African continent, 172 type 2 cases in 14 countries have been reported in 2020.
    https://www.who.int/csr/don/01-september-2020-polio-sudan/en/


    What, do we have to wait till it’s spread into 30 different countries to raise an alarm? Where’s your hypocritical concern like Covid, should have stopped it before it got here.

    I made no assertions in my original post, just something to think about..... the world is rushing to find the magical vaccine for Covid, lots of $$$ to the winner and major political ramifications.

    Possible side effects or worse won’t be known for sometime.

    Of course you’ll always have orange-man-bad to blame it on.
     
  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Wallet does not understand the difference between types of vaccines.

    Also wallet, we talked about your traitorous zerohedge thing? Why do you keep supporting Putin?
     
  8. Wallet

    Wallet

    Please enlighten us, if one type of vaccine is so potentially more dangerous, why use it?

    The type of vaccine isn’t the issue. What ever it is, the medical powers that be authorized it, found it safe to use.

    Our rush to vaccinate, while understandable, is seriously pushing the safety envelope.

    Edit, I linked the actual WHO article
     
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Highschool, you have proven immune to learning anything... You are just too fucking dumb.

    I'm going to watch some Netflix.

    You just won't stop supporting zerohedge will you like a naughty child.
     
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles


    too retarded to even acknowledge.
     
    #10     Sep 5, 2020