Make the Unvaccinated pay their own Covid medical bills - The rage grows

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    ‘Why should we pay for the selfish?’ Britons rage against antivaxxers claiming NHS care
    SINGAPORE has started to charge unvaccinated Covid patients for healthcare starting from today - Express.co.uk asked readers if the UK should do the same, and the majority said yes.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1533365/Antivaxxer-lockdown-NHS-treatment-bills-cost-poll-results

    Experts have said “COVID-19 is no longer a disease of the vaccinated” and hospital ICU beds are disproportionately burdened by those who have refused the Covid jab. It costs around £30 to double jab someone with the Pfizer vaccine compared to £650-a-night to keep a patient alive in ICU. In 2020/21 the cost of treating Covid patients totalled £7.8billion according to the NHS confederation.

    In a poll of 9,699 people, held from December 6 to 8, 62 percent of voters said those who are eligible for the vaccine but refuse it and end up needing Covid health care should be forced to front the bill.

    Express reader Peppa said: “Yes they should. Why should we pay for their selfish attitudes?”

    Another reader going by ‘UK lad’ remarked: “I think they should pay for their care if they catch Covid yes, the NHS is stretched as it is, it's either that or the UK follows in Austria's footsteps and makes it compulsory to have the vaccines.”

    Sir Walter Raleigh went so far as to say: “Vaccinations should be mandatory.”

    As of December 5, 89 percent of over 12-year-olds in the UK have had their first dose of the Covid vaccine, 81 percent have had their second dose, and 20 million boosters have been administered.

    Parjam Zolfaghari, a Consultant in Intensive Care Medicine and Anaesthesia at Barts Health NHS Trust, said a person with Covid stays in an ICU bed for three times longer than ICU patients who are admitted with other conditions.

    He said nearly 90 percent of patients in ICUs with Covid in many hospitals across London aren’t fully vaccinated.

    If hospitalisations rise over winter, as they are expected to, it is feared that extra restrictions will be put in place – whether they will be enforced on everyone or the unvaccinated only is uncertain.

    Germany and Austria have enforced lockdowns on the unvaccinated in a bid to encourage vaccine uptake and protect the vulnerable.

    Of the 38 percent of voters who said antivaxxers should not be forced to pay for their Covid care, many took part in a furious rant in the comments section.

    Reader ‘Marc10’ said: “What a stupid question, just to cause a split in the population. Everyone has the human right to say NO.”

    Some people believe that the freedom to refuse the vaccine should not impact your British right to free health care.

    Joshua Toyn, 24, a pharmaceutical sales rep said: “I’ve had my first dose and will get my second, but making people pay for medical treatment if they’ve refused it goes against the founding set of values of the NHS; ‘access to NHS services based on clinical need, not an individual’s ability to pay’.”

    Express.co.uk voter Michwell agreed: “NHS was created to provide UK with free healthcare. No one should pay for treatment of any kind.”
     
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I assume we'll also be making drug addicts pay for their treatment, drunk drivers pay for their medical bills (and all others they harm) and fat people with diabetes pay for their treatment? Oh oh...and those criminals who were shot pay for their bills as well. I'm sure I'm missing other very logical leaps from this silly idea.

    I mean, one good turn deserves another, right?
     
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Lax vax axe? Legislator calls proposal to put unvaccinated on the hook for their COVID-19 expenses a ‘starting point’
    State Rep. Jonathan Carroll’s bill is likely to face legal challenges and political pushback, but the Northbrook Democrat argued “It’s time that we say ‘You choose not to get vaccinated, then you’re also going to assume the risk that if you do catch COVID, and you get sick, the responsibility is on you.’”
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/politi...th-care-expenses-unvaccinated-person-illinois
     
  4. smallfil

    smallfil

    While, we are at it, I propose a $1,000 fine on ET trolls, including GWB for each incidence of spreading lies and disinformation. We can donate the total proceeds to charity and make the useless ET slugs, contribute something worthwhile, for a change.
     
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Is this another one of your predictions, GWB? This will pass, will it?
     
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Unlikely to pass as state law in Illinois. However it is very likely that you will see Insurance companies and employers charging a monthly surcharge for insurance on the unvaccinated - which happening already.
     
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Where is that happening already?
     
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Delta Airlines and many other employers already are applying an insurance surcharge on the unvaccinated. This is well covered in the media. Some examples...

    Nevada implements insurance surcharge on unvaccinated state workers
    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2021/dec/02/nevada-implements-surcharge-on-unvaccinated-state/

    More employers stripping benefits, charging unvaccinated workers following OSHA mandate
    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news...g-unvaccinated-workers-following-osha-mandate
     
  9. Millionaire

    Millionaire

  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ah, that's why its so easy to get a blank COVID vaccine card! If only there were a way insurance companies could check :(
     
    #10     Dec 9, 2021