Just how much capital do you need to trade options?

Discussion in 'Options' started by nxt7, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. nxt7

    nxt7

    5 figures? 6 figures?

    Otherwise I'm finding it very difficult to stick with the 2% rule when options are costing me >$300 for just 1 contract including brokerage fees...
     
  2. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru

    When it comes to stock options $1000 is fine, lots of opportunity with $100 trades. Open an account with TD Ameritrade.





    :)
     
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  3. This question has a lot of answers. Depending on the brokerage house it can be a minimum of $2,500 or more. There is a minimum set by the SEC, but brokers are allowed to raise the minimum to protect themselves if they chose. Most do not do this unless the markets are crashing.

    As for a singly naked long option.....this can get expensive, which is why most people are spreading the risk off by doing vertical spreads. From there traders can go even deeper into reducing costs by spreading the initial cost off (say a vertical spread) off by selling another spread against it (condor, butterfly etc.).

    I have had many instances where I have bought $5,000 of vertical spreads, hedged them off later by selling another spread against it, and reduced my risk to $100. From there I have sold some at a profit and had $0 invested in a trade. This requires a lot of work and dedication to learn, but when you can take $5k of risk and reduce it to $100, what is the problem?

    How long does it take to make that $5k at a real job? Do this several times a year and it is a no question that spending a hundred hours learning this is better than spending 100 hours watching TV.

    While getting started find a GREAT mentor or read all you can. There are a lot of sites that teach option basics for free. I have my own personal favorite, but that is because I have been doing this for YEARS and am at a more sophisticated level, and I need a company that is full or REAL floor traders as a platform to learn from. But even they have some free material, but most is NOT basics, and not applicable to you.

    You can get a lot of good FREE material on the CBOE (Chicago board options exchange) site
    http://www.cboe.com/LearnCenter/courses.aspx. Also I have found that the company I prefer for paid education has free info on their Facebook page and website which is nice. I hate nothing more than being sucked into so-called free and then being pounded by sales pitches for $10k in materials later.

    I hope this helps.
     
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  4. Starting with less is better... Say 2000-10,000...
     
  5. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    Most startup businesses ( including trading business) go under because they are under capitalized.
     
  6. Better to go under the first time with less...
     
  7. This answer can vary greatly, depending on the type person, strategy, risk tolerances, skill, luck etc etc ;)
    But I'd agree with OptionGuru...an individual can start an account with around $1,000 only. ...and grow it relatively rapidly, but this is rather the exception than the rule. :sneaky:

    If you want to grow your account, forget the 2% rule...and every other cliche thing you've read or learned.
     
  8. Handle123

    Handle123

    I am often reminded of National Lampoons first movie when Chevy Chase has his car towed and asks how much do I owe you to guys who fixed tires and tow, the guy says How much do you got? And he got wiped out.

    Start with 5k and act like it is 1k, only do one's for long while till whatever you backtested works well. If it not working as back tested, your back testing is flawed and stop trading, figure out why back testing failed as it is often didn't have large enough sample size.
     
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  9. Handle123

    Handle123

    I often wonder if people who "try" to trade would think in this manner, each option to be traded your child's life is depending on it. Guess the brokers would not make much of a living. What am I thinking, I shouldn't want others to get smart and figure out how to trade, less for me.