Italy: 96% of Coronavirus Fatalities Had Other Chronic Illnesses

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, May 27, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    ROME — The overwhelming majority of deaths with coronavirus in Italy have occurred in the presence of two or more serious chronic illnesses, according to a report from the country’s national health authority (ISS).

    Italian health authorities announced in a recent report that only 4.1 percent of fatalities testing positive for Wuhan coronavirus happened in the absence of serious comorbidities, while the average age of the deceased was over 80 years.

    The average number of comorbidities among all Italian deaths with the coronavirus was 3.1, ISS revealed. Just 15 percent of fatalities occurred with the presence of just one other serious pathology, while 21.4 percent died with two other pathologies, and 59.6 percent with three or more pathologies.

    The most common comorbidities were arterial hypertension (in 68.3 percent of cases), type-2 diabetes (30.1 percent of cases), ischemic heart disease (in 28.2 percent), atrial fibrillation (22.5 percent), chronic renal failure (20.4 percent).

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    Most common comorbidities among Italy deaths with coronavirus.

    The report also revealed an average age of 81 among those who have died with coronavirus in Italy. One of the most astonishing findings of the report was that only 1.1 percent of all coronavirus deaths in the country happened to people below the age of 50, while more than 57 percent were over 80.

    “The latest numbers show that new cases and fatalities have a common profile: mostly elderly people with previous illnesses,” said ISS president Silvio Brusaferro at a news conference Friday.

    As of May 26, the number of active cases of coronavirus in Italy had fallen to 52,942. The total number of deaths with the disease have been 32,955, while total recorded cases stands at 230,555.

    This week Spain had to revise down its official death count for the coronavirus by nearly 2,000 after discovering a series of reporting errors and duplications.

    The Spanish Health Ministry announced Monday that it removed 1,918 spurious deaths from the official death toll, representing a seven percent drop in the total deaths reported.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...virus-fatalities-had-other-chronic-illnesses/
     
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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    breitbart lol
     
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I remember reading this a month or two ago when it first came out from the Italian Ministry of Health (though the data wasn't as up to date) and thinking, this is primarily a sickness for the old and unhealthy. One of the foundations for establishing my belief on why locking the entire world down was a stupid error.

    I'm sure gwb will be along momentarily to cast suspicion on this data and tell us its flawed, or how Italian politicians manipulated it, or how the scientists aren't accepted by anyone "credible" in the medical community, or...
     
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So now there are over 100 medical conditions that are designated as placing a person at higher risk for death from COVID-19 (comorbidities).

    So if a person has Diabetes and they were likely to survive another 30 years but caught COVID-19 and died ... then according to you we should not count their death as being due to COVID-19.
     
  6. jem

    jem

    You keep missing the point on purpose.
    The more data we see... the more we know the shutdown should have been limited to high death clusters (for a limited time) and the high risk.



     
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The scientists, medical guidance, and public health policy experts disagree with you.

    Take a look at Brazil to see the result of your proposal.

    Fortunately most states in the U.S. are following the best guidance to do a lockdown followed by a phased re-opening with clear entry & exit criteria at each stage.
     
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Just going out on a limb here, but based on the data from Italy where the average age of the deceased was 80 years old, if they had diabetes and were that old, they were not likely to live another 30 years. Call me crazy.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So let's say they were only going to live another 3 years. Should their deaths not be counted towards the COVID-19 death total? Or are they just expendable.
     
  10. If you counted the number of different illnesses that were the cause of those people's deaths and presented them percentage wise , shouldn't the final figure you arrive at be 100% ?

    Please show me where i'm wrong.:(.
     
    #10     May 27, 2020