Is their still a Hatch Act?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by piezoe, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

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  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    If there is a greater violation of the Hatch Act, assuming it's still on the books, than the Attorney General and the Secretary of State, both public employees, using the resources of their offices, to openly and directly, further the interests of the President's political campaign, then I can't imagine what it would be! The President, who is exempt from the Act's reach, has browbeat these public servants into serving his personal political interests. Just another example of the president taking a wrecking ball to those around him. They end up in jail, while he's driving his cart on the greens. Of course one can argue that these folks were willing participants, but I think that's quite wrong in some instances. Possibly Barr and Manafort were willing participants, but Barr seems to be having second thoughts. Our vindictive President routinely tries to ruin the lives and reputations of anyone who refuses to break the law, or do something they know is ethically wrong, at his request. Those who have foolishly thrown in their lot with him are all operating under his threats, and the knowledge of what he has done, or tried to do, to others who would not do his bidding, or who turned on him once they realized what they had got themselves into.
     
  3. jem

    jem

    And Obama and the FBI and CIA be tasked with spying on Trump's Team based on a "trumped" up dossier created with Hillary's campaign money... channeled through her lawyers to english and then foreign spies?

    does that bother you?

    I did not think so...


     
  4. No body spied on his campaign .....even he didn't think he would be installed. Stop lying like him.


    Trump plants more seeds for refusing to concede – falsely claims ‘tens of thousands’ of ballots are ‘fraudulent’

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    President Donald Trump is building on his stunning remarks from last month, when he repeatedly refused to promise a peaceful transition of power should he lose re-election. Trump is the first United States president to ever refuse to honor centuries of accepted conduct.

    Trump on Thursday falsely claimed there have already been “tens of thousands” of “fraudulent” ballots in this election.

    “Under what circumstances would you concede?” Fox News Business’s Stuart Varney asked Trump during a telephone interview, as Raw Story reported.

    “All I want is a fair election,” Trump claimed.

    “So, it’s your judgement as to whether it’s fair or not as to whether you would concede?” Varney, a top Trump supporter, asked.

    “Stuart, they always talk about the friendly transition,” Trump replied.

    That’s false.

    The term has always been “peaceful transition,” not “friendly transition.”

    It’s an important distinction with a difference.

    “They spied on my campaign and they got caught,” the President continued, lying. There was no spying on his campaign. Even the Dept. of Justice agrees, after it quietly closed down the false “unmasking” probe after finding no evidence of wrongdoing or criminal activity by anyone in the Obama administration.

    “They tried to overthrow the president of the United States and they got caught,” Trump continued, again, a ludicrous lie. “And then they stand up so innocent and they say, ‘Will you, you know, do a fair transition?’ Well, they didn’t do a fair transition.”

    Again, the term is “peaceful,” not “fair.”

    Fair is subjective. Friendly is subjective. Peaceful is not.


    “You’re implying if you don’t think it’s fair, you won’t leave the White House,” Varney pointed out, “which means you won’t concede.”

    “I’m not saying anything!” Trump replied. “I’m saying this. I think everybody says it. You have to have a fair election. Look at these ballots that are being — tens of thousands of ballots are already fraudulent. I want to see a fair election. That’s all I’m asking for is a fair election.”

    “But you know when they talk about a friendly transition, they spied on my campaign,” he added.

    “If it wasn’t a friendly transition when you walked into the White House, does that mean that you’re not going to allow a friendly transition if Joe Biden walks into the White House?” Varney pressed.
     
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  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    You should stop listening to Trump and start reading more. If you want to know who Trump's sucker are, look in a mirror.

    See Spike's post above from which comes,

    “ 'They spied on my campaign and they got caught,' the President continued, lying. There was no spying on his campaign. Even the Dept. of Justice agrees, after it quietly closed down the false “unmasking” probe after finding no evidence of wrongdoing or criminal activity by anyone in the Obama administration. "​
     
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  6. Unmasking’ probe commissioned by Barr concludes without charges or any public report
     
  7. jem

    jem

    What the hell was Cross fire hurricane then?

    100 percent Trump's team was spied upon.
    Whether it was legally justified is the issue...
    Not whether it was done.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_Hurricane_(FBI_investigation)

    In March 2017, FBI Director James Comey confirmed in a congressional hearing that the FBI had been investigating Russian interference as part of its counterintelligence mission. He further confirmed that the probe included links between Trump campaign members and the Russian government, and "whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts".[20] Comey added in a June Senate hearing that President Trump had not been personally under investigation until Comey's departure from the FBI.[21][22]
     
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  8. jem

    jem