is America's future in any better shape than Europe?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by zdreg, Nov 16, 2013.

job situation in america will approach europe

  1. yes

    13 vote(s)
    46.4%
  2. no

    9 vote(s)
    32.1%
  3. don't care

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  4. don't need to work

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  1. zdreg

    zdreg

  2. here we go again

    if you want your child to be an employee, send them to college

    they take young entrepreneurs and teach them how to become employees

    and when they can't get jobs it's the governmennt's fault

    for crying out loud, it's no longer for the fed to monitor money supply and watch out for inflation, now they have to get my kid a job

    the elites in the University don't understand business, the only way they know to make money is get a job or take it from business owner

    Typical Das Kapital

    They know what to do with it after it has been made, but they don't know how to make it

    Macy's made the news this week on better than expected earnings

    He started with a wheelbarrow on the sidewalk
     
  3. clacy

    clacy

    The youth needs to wake up. Socialism/statism kills opportunity.

    If you want "fairness" and "security" provided by the state, they will rip the heart out of your freedoms and take away opportunity in the pursuit of "fairness" and "security".
     
  4. cmb

    cmb Guest

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    While I agree on the overall statement that you made. Socialism and communism are 2 different things. For me communism exists in Cuba right now and no other place has it...yes you are correct, there is absolutely no opportunity in Cuba.

    Now socialism on the other hand, I have to disagree with you that there is no opportunity. Have you ever lived in France or any part of Europe that you consider socialist?

    When I lived in France, there are plenty of entrepreneurs. I was personally friends with a guy who owned 7 apartments inside the Downtown area of Paris. He started out as a police officer. Another that I know owned 2 bake shops and a fruit market. I found that there was ample opportunity to own your own business if one was motivated to work hard. If you ever have the time to visit France, take a look at how the life is, the streets are completely made up of small businesses.

    Yes the taxes are higher, but there is also subsidies that other "social" programs that can be taken advantage of to help your small business grow. Yes I agree with that there is a little too much help being given out to people who don't work.
     
  5. d08

    d08

    How I see it:

    - Cuba is socialist, not communist - there are people selling items for money in Cuba and get to keep the money.
    - Soviet Union was communist in that money had no value and you couldn't buy/sell items. Everything was license based and licenses were offered for 'special favors' - car license etc. (Does that make Singapore communist?!).
    - France would be capitalism with socialist tendencies - you can still become a millionaire in France in 2013 and it does happen. In socialism or communism it wouldn't happen (or the money would have no real power, like in Soviet Union).

    US will become like Europe, no question about it. All societies follow a predetermined path but are in very different development stages.
     
  6. cmb

    cmb Guest

    Therefore communism does not exist in 2013.

    I dont know if any country where there is pure communism. Cuba would be the closest.

    Many people on here hate the system that is common in most countries in western europe, however if any of these traders here actually lived in any country in Western Europe, they would have a lot more of their profits in their account at the end of the year. Plus they would pay about 100 bucks a month for great health care insurance, and their kids would be able to attend some of the best universities in the world for about the cost of 1 days work scalping the NQ.
     
  7. zdreg

    zdreg

  8. When the state provides stuff it shuts down the best computers on earth; the ones between the recipients ears. With no incentive and no input of intelligence to a person's own situation it cannot go anywhere but to a lower state of organization.
     
  9. Singaporean are great people, but the old mumbler was a communist, and now his family rules the hardworking great singaporean people.
     
  10. LKY, a communist and a mumbler? You truly are a monumental idiot, tj... Occasionally, I start imagining for a moment that you might be sensible. But then you go and spout some random bullsh1t and it's back to square one.
     
    #10     Nov 17, 2013