IQ by groups in the US

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Millionaire, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    Following on from my thread about IQ of different countries a couple of weeks ago.

    I have done a bit more research about the US specifically.

    Average IQ by racial group in the US:

    Jewish 113
    Asians 106
    Whites 103
    Hispanics 89
    Blacks 85

    See page 2 of this doc for proof of the above figures:
    http://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

    These figures are no longer disputed by academics, but few will openly mention them due to political correctness.

    Although it seems to be ok to mention Asians have high IQs, but if you mention Blacks are lowest you will get fired.

    "An IQ of about 90 is the threshold of reading instructions and following them"

    IQ is the best predictor of economic success in Western society

    The sad fact is if you are in the bottom 10% for the US, you will not be able to hold down any type of job. Regardless of how much training you get.

    I would guess about a third of the black population and a quarter of the hispanic population are not suitable for holding down any type of job due to low IQ.

    This is a serious problem for these communities, and will only get worse as jobs require higher and higher intelligence in future.

    How do we solve this problem?
     
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  2. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    Short (3 minute) video by Jordan Peterson on IQ, not race related, but gives an idea of how important IQ is.

     
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  3. Nobert

    Nobert

    Watched all/most of his lecture on that topic. Everything started to make sense in life & the past.

    Is it possible to raise it or not - im not so much interested in that part, but there's a personal interest, in how many, highly intelligent individuals out there globally, are wondering around, without knowing that they have this gift, while thinking,
    that it's something ,,wrong'' with em, cuz based on the stupid stereotypes of society, they might be taken as the weird ones and etc.
    (having the young ones in mind)

    Solving it - neura link tech could partially do that, but hey, the smart ones could use it too, then the game would move even into the higher level and the cycle should be infinite, if not for the limits of the genius, because, if the brain is pushed to it's limits (like a muscle) a side effects might show up in a form of schizophrenia and etc. (dunno to much about that topic, just have heard of it)

    Conclusion, let's say we manage to raise it, & those groups manages to get an extra 20 or 30 points on average, then what about the ones who are already in the higher end , if the cure/solution, could be applied to them too ?
    The current high score, would become a norm and the game would move into the 160 - 180 area as the new high, but not exception.
    Exceptions - >+200 points, - what would be the long term consequences of such activity in the brain.

    And Pareto Law, would still exists in it's best.

    I think, even self learning/self taught A.I , when placed into environment where's the competition is possible, with other identical units of the same code, eventually falls under Pareto's Law.
    Even if starting as absolutely identical form of code, still, the story continues, while the humans, are so, so much different as individuals.

    And in the end, it isn't such a shiny thing since there is the price, that has to be paid :
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  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Everything you've posted here is a complete load of crap with no use in the real world other then to feed into your racist beliefs and post like an asshole online. There are a ton of good jobs for lower IQ people in the world. More importantly there are a ton of high performers and intelligent people in every group you've listed. And of course there are some low performers and relatively unintelligent people like yourself in every group. In fact, if you've managed to find work, you've proven my point. If so, hold onto that job as long as you can I suspect it won't be easy for you in the future. That "winning" personality of yours is going to turn a lot of people off, and you probably don't hide your racist beliefs quite as well as you think you do.
     
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  5. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    It's my understanding that there are two very different types of intelligence, fluid & crystallized. Fluid intelligence is someone's natural ability to solve problems. Crystallized intelligence is someone's ability to apply the knowledge they've learned both through education & experience to solve problems. It's affected significantly by educational attainment.

    The average middle school drop out has an IQ in the 70's while the average individual with an advanced college degree has an IQ in the 120's. The average IQ of a group will typically reflect their overall education level. That's why people from advanced countries typically have much higher IQ's than people from underdeveloped countries.

    It's a mistake to believe that certain groups of people succeed or fail based off their inherent traits. People as a whole are all basically the same. They just grow up in very different environments & cultures. That's why I believe so strongly that the only way to change things is to reduce the single parent household rates & improve the K-12 education in lower income areas. The environment a child grows up in is vitally important to their success in life.

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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    What we are to do about the low IQ within our own groups falling prey to jingoistic emotionally manipulative twaddle and pulling in the wrong direction?

    The more intelligent see a world of increasing population and complexity as we make the leap into space where co-operation even when tiresome and often with hipocricy is needed more than ever.The less would line to retreat to the 1900s whe it was all nicer in their imaginations.

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    Figure 3 shows that Add Health respondents who identify themselves as "very conservative" in their early adulthood have a mean adolescent IQ of 94.82, whereas those who identify themselves as "very liberal" have a mean adolescent IQ of 106.42.

    https://www.asanet.org/research-and...hy-liberals-and-atheists-are-more-intelligent
     
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  7. Amun Ra

    Amun Ra


    Hmm...so blacks & hispanics are have the lowest IQ and they vote 90% liberal, but this article says very liberal people have an IQ of 106. Something not adding up.
     
  8. Amun Ra

    Amun Ra


    I checked out the guy that wrote that study. He also says smart people do more drugs than dumb people. https://www.theatlantic.com/culture...le-do-more-drugs-because-of-evolution/335457/

    Obviously this guy is pushing an agenda and using a complex methods to get the results he wants. One only has to look at the quality of life a conservative has vs a liberal and common sense kicks in and lets you see through the BS.
     
  9. Blacks don't say they are liberal, in fact they identify with conservatives, they just vote for democrats because they fill safer doing so.

    Higher IQ's mentioned for liberals is because Jews consider themselves liberal as do smarter white, non jewish people.

    Generally speaking that is.
     
  10. Amun Ra

    Amun Ra

    The study didn't say blacks consider themselves conservative. It said they consider themselves liberal. So please, no revisionist history to fit your narrative.
     
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