Inverse ETF Decay

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by EdmondsInvestor, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. Newbie to trading this. Can someone, in baby talk or close, explain how an ETF price changes from market close to the following market opening (independent of the actual price of the underlying)? How would I explain this to a non-investor?
     
  2. Its simple math. Lets talk about a 2x etf

    IF, the price of the index is $100, and it goes down10%, its now worth $90
    THEN, The 2x ETF will go from $100 to $80

    IF, on day 2, the index goes up 10% again, the index goes up to $99
    Then, the 2x goes up 20%, and the index is now at $96

    Now multiply this choppy price behavior over days, weeks, or months, and you'll see the decay in action.
     
  3. 1) Choppiness bad. :mad: :(
    2) Trendiness good. :D :cool:
     
  4. Take it as a gift from the market and only short those instruments with conservative size. Even if you are wrong on the underlying instrument time and decay will be on your side.
     
  5. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    How about buying puts on these inverse tripple etfs?
    Somehow that compounding decay, or whatever you call it,
    must be factored into option prices so it aint so easy. No?
     
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Ugh....no, that doesn't work. The short rates on some of these are over 100%! That's money that gets pulled out of your account everyday btw.
     
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Yes, it is priced into the puts. No free money.