Intel about Russian war from Euro MP

Discussion in 'Economics' started by terr, Feb 26, 2022.

  1. terr

    terr

    There was a meeting oligarchs etc. in the Urals with Putin.

    Translation: mine

    Oligarchs are gathered together personally so no one would flee in panic. They are not allowed to fly on private planes.

    All the targets in Ukraine were supposed to be found and ranged. There was no tactical plan. Quote: "It was all by the flow of events.". Were hoping to take everything within 1-4 days.

    Are discussing financial losses. The war costs $20B/day. Putin is furious, was sure it would be a cakewalk.

    Not enough rockets. Maybe enough for 3-4 days maximum. Being frugal with them.

    No weapons. The factory in Tula and other 2 Rotenberg factories cannot fill the weapons orders. Rifles and bullets. Physically cannot. Not enough weapons. Realistically will take 3-4 months to fill the orders - if! There are no raw materials, so may take longer too.

    The weapons used to come from Slovenia, Finland and Germany. Now that is blocked.

    Agreed that if Ukraine manages to hold for 10 days, have to start negotiations. Because there is no money, weapons or resources. Not much fear of sanctions.

    Alfa, special ops, from 18th (I presume Feb 18th, not 2018 - terr) somewhere near Kiyiv. All hope is to take Kiyiv and appoint a puppet. That way don't have to spend any more money, soldiers or weapons.

    Preparing a provocation against the civilians. Attack on children, women. To create panic. That's the trump card.

    The whole plan - hoping for panic. So that Ukrainians will surrender and Zelensky will run away.

    They are counting on Kharkiv surrendering first, then other cities will follow its example to avoid bloodshed.

    Problems in Russia with airports. No drones. Very upset about loss of armored column near Kharkiv, 200 soldiers dead. Very serious losses on Russian side.

    Quote: "Met fierce resistance from the enemy." They're shocked.

    Need to do (presumably on Ukrainian side, this is not from the meeting - terr):

    * Hold off Russians 9 more days
    * No panic
    * Explain the rockets - this is all to create fear. On purpose they are shooting wild and "accidentally" hit apartment buildings. To create mass effect (not sure what that means - terr)

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  2. ZBZB

    ZBZB

    The Russian troops sold the diesel as soon as they crossed the border.
     
  3. damn good info
     
  4. I saw a few tanks/APCs. "out of gas"
     
  5. Nobert

    Nobert

    They had problems with Finland, Checnya & Afgan, way smaller than Ukraine, and now they hoped to slip through with country 3 x bigger than those combined & next to EU.

    Genius.
     
  6. ET180

    ET180

    This is what we need:



    The ultimate soldier is a machine.
     
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  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    So what does this say:-

    Олигархи собрались лично, чтобы никто не сбежал в панике
     
  8. terr

    terr

    That's not the quote from the document. The quote is:

    Бизнесменов собирают специально на совещания чтобы никто не улетел в панике.

    Literally: "Businessmen are gathered/invited to consultations/meetings on purpose, so that no one flees/flies in panic."

    Interpret it any way you want.
     
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    I'm not claiming to have seen any document but that is not what I asked.

    I asked what does it say?
     
  10. terr

    terr

    Олигархи собрались лично, чтобы никто не сбежал в панике

    Oligarchs gathered (or met) in person, so that no one could flee in panic.
     
    #10     Feb 26, 2022