In a shocking twist: MN City Council Complains About Crime Spike After Voting To Abolish Police

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  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    In the biggest WhoCouldaNode?? in a long time...

    Minneapolis City Council Complains About Crime Spike Months After Voting To Abolish Police

    • Members of the Minneapolis city council who voted three months ago to dismantle the police department are now expressing concern over crime spikes in the city.
    • City council members asked the Minneapolis police chief during a business meeting Tuesday how to grapple with an uptick in carjackings, robberies and street racing.
    • One city councilman noted the drastic reversal on the part of his colleagues, saying he was “flabbergasted” that members who earlier wanted to abolish the police department are now claiming it is not doing enough to fight crime.
    Three months after voting to dismantle the Minneapolis police department, city council members there spent much of a business meeting on Tuesday complaining about an uptick in violent crime across the city.


    Several city council members told police chief Medaria Arradondo at the meeting that their constituents were concerned about increased criminal activity.

    City council members Lisa Bender, Steve Fletcher and Andrew Johnson led off the two-hour meeting with questions about the crime wave.

    All three of the council members voted on June 12 to abolish the police department in the wake of the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a Minneapolis police officer kneeled on his neck for nearly 9 minutes. The trio also took part in a protest on June 7 in which they took a pledge to dismantle the police department.




    “We are here today to begin the process of ending the Minneapolis Police Department and creating [a] new transformative model for cultivating safety in Minneapolis,” the joint statement in June said, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

    Fletcher told Arradondo during the city council meeting Tuesday that constituents told him that rank-and-file police officers were “not doing anything to prevent robberies” in a neighborhood called Marcy Holmes. He also decried “a significant increase in extremely dangerous and reckless driving.” (RELATED: Minneapolis City Council Vows To ‘Dismantle’ The Police)

    “I’d love to know a little more about what the robbery suppression work is and what are we doing what’s been sort of a pattern in Marcy over the past six weeks?” Fletcher asked Arradondo.

    Fletcher wrote in an essay for TIME on June 5 that he was “publicly supporting the call to disband our police department and start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity.”

    Bender, the president of the city council, also told Arradondo Tuesday that constituents have said that police officers “are not enforcing crime.”

    “This is not new, but it is very concerning in the current context,” she said, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

    Bender speculated that officers may be refusing to respond to criminal complaints “because they don’t support council member, or in some cases, the mayor, or perhaps they think that they’re making the case for more resources for the department.”

    “How do we get this under control?” she asked.

    Bender was a leading proponent for dismantling the police department. She drew national attention in June when she said in an interview on CNN that calling the police during an emergency “comes from a place of privilege.”

    Andrew Johnson asked Arradondo about an uptick in carjackings in his ward.

    “I would appreciate some more information on how we’re addressing the carjackings. There have been a number of them in the community, and they’ve really terrorized residents,” said Johnson.

    “How do we stop it?” he asked. “Because it seems like a huge problem and it’s something we absolutely want to stop and it also seems very difficult to stop.”

    He lamented that the police department has a “no chase policy.”

    “How we actually hold these individuals accountable, get them off the streets so they aren’t terrorizing the community?”

    Though Johnson endorsed the pledge to abolish the police department in June, he told The Daily Caller News Foundation on Wednesday that he supports an armed law enforcement agency that “would continue to go after carjackers and violent criminals.”

    He said that the controversial aspect of the debate in Minneapolis is whether to “remake or replace” the police department.

    One city councilman, Phillipe Cunningham, noted the inconsistency between members’ complaints about police inaction and their earlier calls to abolish the department.

    “What I am sort of flabbergasted by,” said Cunningham, “is colleagues who a very short time ago who were calling for abolition are now suggesting that we should be putting more funding and resources into MPD.”
     
  2. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    What is frightening is that they are surprised at the outcome. That is a special kind of stupid.

    We will see this experiment carried out in many cities nonetheless and NYC will probably be the poster-child for not defunding law enforcement.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Keep in mind that these are the same clowns who hired private security for their homes costing taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars.
     
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Right. I've said it before, several times now. I am ALL FOR these cities taking these actions and sending hard working Americans and their businesses South to warmer and friendlier tax climates. All for it. Floridians will see jobs, higher real estate prices and more diversification from the tourism industry.

    That is, if DeSantis doesn't kill us all first, right, GWB? (sorry, I couldn't resist...)
     
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  5. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    The real estate market here on the Treasure Coast is on fire. I'm sure it is in Tampa and the whole surrounding area as well. Zillow claims my home is worth 9% more than I paid for it and claims 3% of that occurred in the last month. I'm in a walled & gated compound in a walled & gated community and that apparently appeals to people looking for physical security.

    I'm at home today waiting for the gas company to come install a meter. The gas line comes to the house but was capped when they upgraded to all electric. I'm getting a natural gas generator per your suggestion. Doesn't appear to be any storms tracking to Florida at the moment but I might as well get the work done before one does head this way. I'm not sure whether to pour a concrete pad or just buy one pre-formed.
     
  6. elderado

    elderado

    Send in the social workers!
     
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Pouring a pad is easy. I'd go with that option. What brand of generator did you choose?

    As for RE prices, Tampa is also on fire. Some of it had to do with COVID and people realizing that, if they were going to be locked up, they wanted a pool for the family. So any house with a pool had an 8 to 12% premium on it overnight. We purchased our place for $750 back in November and it is pricing around 800k right now. My realtor asked if I would be interested in making a quick 50k, but of course I'd be buying some place else at much higher, so that makes no sense unless I was looking to downsize now. I'm not.

    The more shit like the OP happens and the more people fleeing blue cities and states the better it will be for Florida, and for all of us living here.
     
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  8. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Champion 14kw, a little quieter than some of the others I looked at. I think I can get by on 14kw. When I add up my power requirements I only come up with 6kw but that is quiescent and some things with electric motors have a large inrush current at startup so I figure 2x should be adequate. It has a 10-year warranty as well.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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  10. elderado

    elderado

    Exactly. See - the CHAZ/CHOP dude's outcome.

    Social workers would never have been able to handle that.
     
    #10     Sep 17, 2020
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