IMHO: US sanctions help China and Russia, hurt US and Europe

Discussion in 'Economics' started by earth_imperator, Jul 12, 2022.

  1. IMHO: US sanctions help China and Russia, hurt US and Europe.

    China becoming #1 will be accelerated by such US sanctions, b/c then China get's the sanctioned products cheaper and in full abundance.

    For example EV parts, especially batteries: China can produce much cheaper than the West b/c China has access to cheap raw materials from Russia, the West no more due to its own sanctions --> West shooting itself in the foot, or head... :banghead:

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    Last edited: Jul 12, 2022
  2. terr

    terr

    It definitely helps Russia, doesn't it?

    This is according to Rosstat - Russian government agency. In May 2022 production of these products in Russia was reduced by:

    Automobiles - 97%
    Buses - 77%
    Locomotives - 63%
    Glass - 61%
    Washing machines - 59%
    Refrigerators - 58%
    Railroad cars - 52%
    Electric motors - 59%
    Passenger railroad cars - 40%
    Elevators - 35%
    Pumps and compressors - 30%
     
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  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    What Russia seems to really have a lot of these days ... is bots posting nonsense everywhere.
     
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  4. zdreg

    zdreg

     
  5. Same with China
     
  6. ET180

    ET180

    Sanctions hurt Russia, but benefit countries willing to trade with Russia. China and India are getting oil at a discount. Rest of the world buys oil at a premium. So the net effect is that US and Europe are subsidizing China, India, and other countries willing to trade with Russia. US and Europe could correct that fast -- trade with Russia and we cut off all trade with you...but they can't do that...we have become too dependent. China and Russia knows that. I think this winter will get interesting.
     
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  7. notagain

    notagain

    US increases energy prices on its consumers by exporting its oil, forcing foreign support for the dollar.
    We suffer from less buying power at home while the dollar is stronger abroad.
     
  8. Nobert

    Nobert

    OP another pro rus (alt) acc
     
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Wingnuts like the free marketplace of exporting oil except when they don't like the free marketplace of exporting oil. Meanwhile the price in the U.S. is still less expensive than almost any other place on the planet.
     
  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Huh?
     
    #10     Jul 13, 2022