If we are close to a recession - why are utilities among the big losers

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by David's faith, Jul 8, 2023.

  1. Recently the big loser sectors were healthcare (which lost a lot as covid is no thing anymore) energy (as energy prices fell) and utilities, according to finviz. But has anyone a clue why and would you position for a rebound if you were or are swing trading?
     
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  2. themickey

    themickey

    In answer to your thread title, everything has its day.
    Utilities will pick up shortly, they are beaten down and will rebound, not far away.
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    Why not.....

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    But just right atm your timing for a rebound could be wrong, it needs to come down a bit more or put it another way, it's a bit toppy atm.
     
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  3. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    Based on S&P's Guide to Sector Rotation
    With the best sectors being Communication Services, Technology and Industrials
    We should be between Full Recession and Early Recovery
    After a market bottom and early bull market.

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  4. I was thinking kinda the same. If it goes a bit down I'd scale in.
    Great post, thanks a lot. You know I'm a fan of you, glad to have you on here.
     
  5. kmiklas

    kmiklas

    I’m actually starting to think that this “looming recession” is fully priced in, including at least two if not three ¼pt raises to over 6% by EOY.

    unless the Fed goes balls-to-the-wall and cranks the fed fund rate up over 7% (or more), methinks that the $SPY will break 500 by year end.

    Sh!t $AAPL just broke a 3T valuation… they can’t fail.
     
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    I don't bother following utilities, so I thought to do a quickie on XLU with my system.
    XLU just bordeline failed on technicals on one breakout (there can be several breakouts depending on which timeframe), there is no prospect for a longer term up move atm, it's at least a month away minimum on my method. There could be short term spikes which then fail, so my attention would be on something else, coal (eg BTU) would be one prospect to consider.
     
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  7. mervyn

    mervyn

    Utilities are dividends stocks, when treasury can pay you 5% a year, the dividend yield is no longer attractive, even for retirees.
     
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  8. traider

    traider

    Also why are tech stocks big winners with recession looming?
     
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  9. Because they do grwat regardless of the economic environment. They have sales even if the world comes to an end so to speak.
     
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  10. Great post.
    I think this might be THE reason.
     
    #10     Jul 9, 2023
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