If I am doing option research at Fidelity or Schwab...Are they selling the information to someone??

Discussion in 'Options' started by Cabin111, Sep 28, 2023.

  1. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    Not really paranoid, just curious...

    Like to a MM...This guy is doing research on these options, this date. Give me a twentieth of a cent...
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Are you asking about PFOF or something else? I do not really understand the question.

     
  3. destriero

    destriero

    You think they're looking at your covered call stresses?
     
  4. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    Say, looking for future trades tomorrow. I usually do basic research at Yahoo Finance...Then the day of, look where the bid/ask is on that option.

    So I started to look at covered calls at Fidelity. I am sure they track my movement (really don't know why). But do they sell it to anyone else, what options I am looking at, but have not put in a bid/ask at this time...

    Would a MM be interested in this information or am I so small that they just wait for my ticket to gain PFOF.

    I am sure an insurance company (annuity) would LOVE to find me.
     
  5. Big AAPL

    Big AAPL

    Everything you post is being sold...even if it is ridiculous
     
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  6. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    No broker is going to share your movements online with anyone. The DMM has no idea what you are doing until you send an order. Even then, they are fully automated and do not care about any single small order.

     
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  7. zghorner

    zghorner

    are they tracking the results you come up with, (when you find something valuable) they sell that info to someone?

    surely i am mistaken...
     
  8. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    I understand about the fully automated...But I may question not wanting to see the small order. Was thinking if I put in a ask on a covered call this evening (market closed), would Fidelity/Schwab's MMs see it before the opening of the markets?? I may be wrong, but I believe they do...Part of PFOF. They have to, because it is part of creating the option market (however small)...

    You don't think Fidelity or Schwab have in house or 3rd party insurance agents??

    The Fidelity Insurance Network®
    You’ll have access to a network of reputable and highly-rated3 providers who offer a broad range of competitive products.

    4.
    Fidelity Personal Retirement Annuity (Policy Form No. DVA-2005, et al.) is issued by Fidelity Investments Life Insurance Company and, for New York residents, Personal Retirement Annuity (Policy Form No. EDVA-2005, et al.) is issued by Empire Fidelity Investments Life Insurance Company®, New York, N.Y. Fidelity Brokerage Services, Member NYSE, SIPC, and Fidelity Insurance Agency, Inc., are the distributors.

    Walk into a bank with a jumbo CD...What's the first thing you get?? A call from their investment advisor (who also happens to be a licensed insurance agent).
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2023
  9. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I'm going to drop out of this conversation. You started a thread in the Option forum. Now you are pointing out insurance products. I'm lost. Nothing on this page makes sense to me. I can't help.

     
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  10. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    Robert, see what I added to my last post. Sorry about the rabbit hole...
     
    #10     Sep 28, 2023