If gold is being used for margin calls...

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Cabin1111, Apr 4, 2025.

  1. Cabin1111

    Cabin1111

    Maybe there is still a run left...

    Was reading, saw this at the end of a story...

    In a further sign of the tumult across the hedge fund sector, gold — a traditional safe haven for investors — dropped 2.9 per cent on Friday, despite the deep gloom among global investors.

    Suki Cooper, a precious metals analyst at Standard Chartered, suggesting the precious metal was being used to “meet margin calls.”
     
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  2. mervyn

    mervyn

    first, spot gold price is tired to dxy, dxy goes down so does gold, nothing magical in short term. second, yes gold can be used as collateral for margin calls, same as treasuries, with haircuts.

    among the trading desks, anything that can be posted immediately to the counterparty electronically can be used as trading capital. guarantees too but will take some time to collect.
     
  3. Cabin1111

    Cabin1111


    Maybe after the sells get cleared off of the books, the central banks will continue to forge ahead with their buys...
     
  4. schizo

    schizo

    I TOLD YOU!!!
    (Not sure about the margin call, but it was screaming "SELL" all over the map.)

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...isk-in-the-sp500.85694/page-2774#post-6111380

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-this-not-alarming.381640/page-4#post-6111384
     
  5. themickey

    themickey

    Riiiiight......

    DXY00_Barchart_Interactive_Chart_04_05_2025.png
     
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  6. ph1l

    ph1l

    Yes. Using the QuantDare method, I calculate the three-year, daily return correlation of SPDR Gold Shares (GLD) and Invesco DB US Dollar Index Bullish Fund (UUP) as -0.472425014643925.

    So, gold has a strong negative correlation to the US dollar.
     
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  7. nitrene

    nitrene

    The old saw in panics is Sell what you can. I think the same thing happened during Covid & GFC.
     
  8. maxinger

    maxinger

    Some big boys sold gold because of margin call.

    Some big boys bought gold because gold is considered safe haven.

    Some big boys sold gold to take profit


    So gold futures tend to move
    up and down and
    up and down and
    up and down and
    up and down and
    up and down and
    up and down and ....


    Look at what happened past one hour (when the market just opened this week).
    It formed a beautiful close wedge formation with a huge volume traded and huge base.