IB loses $120M from Swiss currency move

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by MoreLeverage, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. TraDaToR and Zr1Trader like this.
  2. IB is not a bucket shop, but the bucket shops are getting killed. FXCM is at less than $2, down from $16. Is that because the bucket shop brokers were short CHF and the customers were long? That makes it sound as if the customers made out huge.
     
  3. Well well well, I guess some brokers will remember that "retail" is not always the dumb money! lol
     
  4. loyek590

    loyek590

    no, it means FXCM customers lost more than their account balance and FXCM couldn't close them out in time before that happened. So they are stuck with many customers who technically owe them money, money which they will never be able to collect.
     
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  5. Money that, in their own trading terms, they cannot hold clients legally liable for. rofl.
     
  6. yeah it looks like I was wrong. But why did FXCM get cleaned out when Gain Cap is doing OK.
     
  7. destriero

    destriero

    Exactly. At 12x you're bust at the opening tick after the SNB news. Now assume that there are guy sitting on 50x in the US and >100x offshore. I am surprised they didn't lose more. How did this stock not open at $1 yesterday? I would have shorted it if I had known they were public.
     
  8. loyek590

    loyek590

    Gain raised their margin requirement from 2% to 5% in eur.chf a while back, anticipating the risk the breakdown of the peg could unleash.
     
  9. Trader13

    Trader13

    The article doesn't say if these losses were on currency futures (IB is self-clearing) or their spot Forex customers (don't know if IB is an FX dealer or broker). Waiting for more details.
     
  10. there was some fear about IB, as the stock opened 10% down today, but it has recovered everything by now. so thank god, no need to worry.

    i still can't believe what a bunch a amateur buggers the SNB are. getting the EUR/CHF down 30% at the NZD/CHF 50% at peak time. probably they had told their wives again and wanted to play the market a little. what a bunch of buggers! sending half a dozen brokers out of business and killing retails accounts en masse. I really hope they'll be kicked out and all their fraudulent winnings confiscated... although that won't happen
     
    #10     Jan 16, 2015
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