I just received the NIV New Testament (2011 version) and I'm not impressed ...

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by kandlekid, Dec 10, 2024.

  1. kandlekid

    kandlekid

    Dang. I lost my NIV New Testament (1978) version on the bus here in Jersey City, so I ordered a few new ones. I have to say, that after a quick read of Ephesians 1, I'm not impressed. I have the NIV bible 1984 also, and here are a few verses to compare with the 2011 version.

    2011 Eph. 1:9-10 "he made known to us the mystery of his will according to
    his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the
    times reach their fulfillment - to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth
    under Christ."

    1984 Eph. 1:9-10 "And he made known to us the mystery of his will according to
    his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times will
    have reached their fulfillment - to bring all things in heaven and on earth under one head,
    even Christ".

    2011 Eph. 1:19-20: "... That power is the same as the mighty strength he exerted
    when he raised Christ from the dead ..."

    1984 Eph. 1:19-20: "... That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he
    exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead ..."

    The 2011 version just does not move me the same way. I doesn't seem to have the beauty of the 1984.
     
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  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    Look at the big picture.

    All versions are similar;
    The Bible is not for children.

    There are far too many killings/wars.
    There are strange events like people being able to survive in a big fish stomach for 3 days
    etc etc
    Children and even adults will be confused with Nakba, and land to be given to the Jews.

    Children and even adults will not be able to understand when incest and murder are acceptable.
     
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  3. I have several translations. When I read a passage in one of the 4 books of the gospel which I wish to understand better I will read the same passage in each translation.

    Jesus said we have only one teacher the Holy Spirit.

    That is don't let man (lower knowledge of this world) teach you about God, let God the Heavenly Father, teach you about His heart.

    If I am unclear on the spiritual meaning I ask in prayer. The answer will come - sometimes it takes a while.

    For the last year, I have been reading and re-reading the book of John- slowly carefully making notes on passages that resonate and those I am unclear on. New understandings come.


    Remember:
    "The words I speak are spiritual" (J6:63)
    and
    "God is Spirit." (J4:24)
    and
    "Let those who have ears to hear listen."
    and
    "I speak what the Father tells me to say." J14:24

    Note this process is for Jesus's words = the Son of God
    (- not for Saul/Paul's words = a man)

    -------
    It is the Spirit which gives life. The flesh will not help you. The things which I have told you are spiritual and are life.

    JB Phillips (biblegateway) and James Moffat are good translations as well as NIV.
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2024
  4. themickey

    themickey

    Right, the nonsense holy spirit and fraudulent jesus and the jewish cultish idol god will teach you, just like they teach all christians and jews with a zillion different theories, denominations, cliques.
    The fraudulent bible made by man but miraculously "from god", ohhh yeahhhh.
    Keep drinking the koolade horse shit.
    Keep it up!
     
  5. themickey

    themickey

    I'm becoming more and more convinced, as time progresses, humans are evolving dumber.
     
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  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's Galapagos.
     
  7. poopy

    poopy

    I just bot a pop-up book about puppies. The plot left me flat.
     
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  8. poopy

    poopy

    derrrrrp. Quantum computers will solve max's Three IQ Problem.
     
  9. dave74

    dave74

    I do not trust the NIV bible after 1984.
     
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