How To Trade Volatility

Discussion in 'Options' started by ironchef, May 31, 2016.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    In the 3 1/2 years of options trading, I have only traded directionally, mostly simple buys or writes and occasionally converted them to spreads.

    Quite a few of you here at ET were kind enough to help clear up some questions I had on options trading. Thanks to you I am a much better trader now.

    For some situations I encountered, I thought trading volatility could be quite profitable but I just wasn't experience enough to trade volatility. The question I am asking is if I do want to trade volatility, how important is it to construct a trade that start out delta and gamma neutral? Also, what about time to expiry, short/long?

    Finally, should I even try? And how many of you are actually trading volatility instead of direction?

    Appreciate any comments from ET folks here.
     
  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thanks. By the way what is filthy?

    I looked at Amazon, it said the book was for:

    Popular guide to options pricing and position sizing for quant traders

    Anyway, I will buy the book and read.
     
  3. Jones75

    Jones75

    IMHO, selling high vol, relative to hv, is risky, but can be very profitable. Going long, you want low vol, relative to hv, but I think that's a crap shoot.

    Synthetic long put straddles seem to come down the middle for me. You need high OI and a tight b/a. Research it, and you might come away with a different perspective on vol.

    Good luck :)
     
  4. "filthy" is Euan's nickname (and sometimes online alias). He was a professional options trader, so he knows what he is talking about.

    He has also published a simpler, more introductory book:

    www.amazon.com/Option-Trading-Volatility-Strategies-Techniques/dp/0470497106/ref=pd_sim_14_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=51AFf7pQPzL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL480_SR318%2C480_&refRID=JCPJGX648X1GR7E05RT0

    Note that a certain level of mathematical maturity is required to "get" filthy's writing. I'm not talking maths at measure theoretic probability level, but you need to feel comfortable with basic vanilla option equations.

    If that sounds too hard, then you might want to read Sheldon Natenberg's book first. Having said that, filthy's first book was aimed at replacing Natenberg.

    Another good one is Baird's option market making book.
     
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  5. TradeCat

    TradeCat

    Or use the VIX to predict how an index will move and trade the index.
     
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you very much. I appreciate your answer. Some level of mathematics is actually fine with me just that sometimes the finance terminologies confused me, a non finance type.
     
  7. VIX reacts to the market and buying/selling in options, it does not predict the index.
     
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  8. Some ideas:

    Selling delta 2 ES puts (as explained in the other thread)..I know some people hate this, but after a few weeks = guaranteed $ even if the market falls a lot. The margin requirements are surprisingly low.

    Selling neutral delta 20 200-day ES strangle. After 2 weeks, unless the market is + or - more than 3%, you will be ahead due to the decay . Very high prob. of making $.

    never sell calls on options less than 100 days exp.
     
  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    Why may I ask? A lot of traders said 30-45 days, e.g., tastytrade videos
     
    #10     Jun 1, 2016